Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

@vonhelmholtz 

So you don't believe that isolating contagion can blunt it?  You don't believe in climate change?  OK... well... lol. How about evolution?  ... Well, in that case, you certainly would not be interested in science; I understand.... beyond that, I don't know what else to say.

@mikepowellaudio @goofyfoot @vonhelmholtz  100% 

Arrogance=ASR members (generally).  I noted the two members who either end conversations or are ridiculed.  I was thrown out because I had unsupported statements, indicated my attachment to the live music performance community and their derision of anything more expensive than they could accept as better than cheap equivalent gear.  I opened my conversation on the snake oil forum after someone posted that the Audiodesk CD shaper was snake oil.  Ok, I mentioned that I had purchased one for $150 back in 2006 and tried it, found it made little difference compared to destatisizing my CD prior to play and can now sell it for $1000 or more.  Just for trying it, I was branded a lunatic who wastes money.  It went downhill from there.  Mentioning that I preferred the SR Atmosphere X Euphoria digital cable, well, that was too much, the ghouls came out.  

Note that the after the MattHooper post on amp stand isolation, the posters call him nuts and crazy.  I cannot view the site with Chrome anymore as I have been blocked so this information was made possible by viewing ASR on Edge.  

I don't intend to view ASR any longer as the members are generally mean, nasty and stupid/uneducated.  I'm glad I began this forum.  It's been a pleasure hearing from fellow audiophiles and music lovers, whatever your preference for sound reproduction and musical tastes.  

 

@curtdr

I didn’t intend on having a political argument, but yes there are multiple "scientific" analysis that come to differing conclusions on these topics. I’ll cite Sweden’s Covid response and the doomsday claims made in the 1970s and 80s that we were all in peril because of ( the scientific fact) of global cooling.

I don't intend to view ASR any longer as the members are generally mean, nasty and stupid/uneducated. 

I find that description applicable to plenty of other forums as well. If you even hint at how measurements can serve a useful purpose on this site, you will get the same mean, nasty, uneducated response.

Science brought us cellphones and high yield crops to feed the world.  Pseudoscience is politically charged technobabble that benefits the few.