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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
vonhelmholtz
911 posts
 

@curtdr

I didn’t intend on having a political argument, but yes there are multiple "scientific" analysis that come to differing conclusions on these topics. I’ll cite Sweden’s Covid response and the doomsday claims made in the 1970s and 80s that we were all in peril because of ( the scientific fact) of global cooling.

kuribo
524 posts
 

I don't intend to view ASR any longer as the members are generally mean, nasty and stupid/uneducated. 

I find that description applicable to plenty of other forums as well. If you even hint at how measurements can serve a useful purpose on this site, you will get the same mean, nasty, uneducated response.

tonywinga's avatar
tonywinga
844 posts
 

Science brought us cellphones and high yield crops to feed the world.  Pseudoscience is politically charged technobabble that benefits the few.

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twoleftears
5,318 posts
 

Perhaps it's time to start coming up with some alternative versions of what the initials ASR stand for.

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goofyfoot
1,370 posts
 

@twoleftears I have an ASR amp and phonostage, please don’t confuse those with Audio Science Review, I am not a zealot!

My very first tweak was about 1967 when I used a friends portable record player and taped a quarter to the stylus end of the tonearm. I was like, wow! I told my friend and he said that it didn’t make a difference. I wonder if ASR could do a measurement review of that?

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