Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Perhaps it's time to start coming up with some alternative versions of what the initials ASR stand for.

Also-ran?

It should go without saying that buying any audio equipment based on any third party recommendation, without first listening in one’s room with one’s equipment is fraught with problems and a crap shoot.

@kuribo - BINGO!

Relying on any one source of information for purchasing choices, whether the manufacturer’s marketing babble, reported measurements, professional reviewers, or posts on forum sites like this may very well lead to disappointment, particularly without thoroughly listening to whatever is being purchased and preferably in one’s own system.

I fail to understand the level of anger and name-calling that results from the ASR site posting measurements and their personal opinions, while it is apparently ok for the "wisdom of the masses" on sites like this to encourage people to spend thousands of dollars on multi-colored fuses, expensive cables, incomprehensible tweaks, or digital add-ons and doodads that become obsolete about every two years as the manufacturer releases the next latest and greatest. Did someone kill a sacred cow?

This stuff is a common byproduct of free enterprise, which is still a better system than the alternative. You can learn to protect yourself (and your money) with knowledge, experience, and street savvy.

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It’s about their malicious campaign against audiophiles in all audio social sites

I guess I have never noticed this, maybe because I do not know who "they" are.  Is Amir a poster here, or at Audio Asylum, or at What's Best Forum, or another site?  Is there an organized cadre of ASR members who purposely campaign against subjective evaluation of audio equipment?  I am not arguing, but I just haven't seen it outside of the typical back and forth that goes on here.