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PSB Image T6 fuzzy sound

Hello,

I just got a pair of PSB Image T6’s. I am noticing that on source material containing female vocals (Norah Jones, Feist), the high frequencies are accompanied by a fuzzy, “staticy” muddled sound. Sadly it makes the recordings pretty hard to listen to. I do not recall hearing such coloration at the store where I demo’d them (I unfortunately did not listen to the same material at the store… I plan to head back there with my discs in hand when time permits). After initially thinking I got a defective pair, I played the same material on my surrounds which are PSB Image T5’s. Interestingly enough, I heard the same coloration. Given the similarity in the sound between the two sets of speakers, I am wondering if its one of my other components. Before I go down that path and shop for and swap out cables and amps, I wanted to get some idea from those out there who have listened to these speakers. Is this fuzzy, “staticy” muddled sound a characteristic of the latest incarnation of the PSB Image line? More importantly, is there anything I can do to clear up those highs?

Thanks
Kevin

Additional Associated Equipment and Room Information:

20’ X 20’ with a 20 ft pitched ceiling at the center.
Arcam AVR 200 as Pre/Power amp
Oppo BPD 103 as CD player
Acoustic Research 6ft interconnects
10’ pair of 11 guage IXOS speaker cables.
krazeeyk
krazeeyk OP
24 posts
 
I share your sentiment. Sometimes ignorance can be bliss. I have a feeling if I had a dedicated CD player, I would not hear as much "hissing" on the upper end. A lot of this thought is attributed to my belief that there are just fewer settings the user can mess with. I think my next purchase may be a DAC as I have a hard time convincing myself that CD players are still the way to go. I really liked my Arcam CD72. But given that its a bit dated, I can't help but think the new DACs on the market are inferior in capability. In addition, I really like the versatility of being able to plug in different digital inputs. As I am only looking to spend $400 (which is what I paid for the used CD72 back in 2002) I just have this feeling that $400 can buy so much more today (I hope). Anyhow, on with the madness.

Oh, what components are you using now?

Thanks
Kevin
binkleyc
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Wow, that album is just recorded badly. The producer added a lot more air in the 10-14k range to the vocals. It is very distracting. It's a hiss to me, not fuzz though. They mixed it for earbuds. If you listen through your standard Apple white crap you will not notice it, I suspect, but you can still kinda hear those frequencies are attenuated.

Also, my speakers seem to be pretty fast and the notes in her vocal with much greater volume nearly hit me in the head. Hard to listen to at a decent normal volume. Compression, used judiciously, is sometimes highly necessary for making vocals palatable on stereos! And it's possible to automate compression just the way you would ride a vocal with a fader. That's a different issue though.

Probably turning down the output on the Oppo is helping because it might be causing actual clipping in the AVR, making it more of a fuzz than a hiss (pure distortion).
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b_limo
2,290 posts
 
Hey, K! I'm using a classe ssp-25 pre-amp, classe ca-150 amp, denon dvd 2900 as a transport, a wadia 170i to stream spotify premium and pandora one, a musical fidelity v-dac ii with upgraded power supply, paradigm studio 20's (v.5), svs sb12 plus, signal cable silver resolution xlr's and speaker cable, ps audio power cords :-)
I' super happy finally with my rig although another ca-150 and some cullen power cords along with some gik absorbtion panels and diffusors are planned future upgrades.
I've really been enjoying spotify premium lately. Once I figured out the wadia 170i, it's been all good. Spotify premium through a good dac equals c.d.'s on my system. It just opens up the door to so much music, which is really what this is all about; the music that is!
krazeeyk OP
24 posts
 
Nice rig. I like the components you selected as they are also on the top of my list for best "bang for the buck". If I had my druthers, I'd probably end up with the same components. Although, I can't say I know much about Paradigm's. I have always been tempted by the great value Classe components provide on the second hand Audiogon market. I think if I get the upgrade bug, I'll have to go down that route. The VDAC caught my eye as well. I am thinking either that one of the Music Hall 15.2. How do you like the IPOD/IPHONE as the portal to Pandora? Do you think it is any better than using a network enabled blu-ray or TV?

Thanks
Kevin
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b_limo
2,290 posts
 
Hey, Kevin! Thanks for the nice reply! I love the musical fidelity v-dacii with the upgraded power supply (I use a pangea p-100). I think it's a great sounding dac for around $500 for dac and upgraded power supply. As for your question about the i phone vs. blu ray or t.v for a portal to pandora I couldn't tell a difference between my ps-3 and the i phone but I couldn't stream spotify premium over the ps3, and there is a pretty noticeable difference between pandora one (192kbps) vs spotify premium (320 kbps) so I had to go the i phone route. The user interface between spotify and pandora is totally different in that with spotify you can pull up multiple albums from one artist and all of the tracks on those albums whereas pandora is more like a radio station in that you just get whatever the want to play. I have pandora one but only use it to find new artists and then use spotify to delve deeper. Like I mentioned in my last post, spotify is really close to c.d. quality on my system, whereas pandora one is not.
Another thing to consider between the v dac and the music hall is that the v dac is asynchronous and the music hall is synchronous. If your planning on streaming music off your p.c., asynchrous is the preferred method because the dac corrects jitter and reclocks the signal.
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