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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
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jtgofish
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The real concern about ASR is that they are unlike any other audio forum on the planet in that they actively censor and shout down anybody who dares to express any experience based opinion.Most of us living in free and civilised countries have the right to have and express opinions guaranteed by law and yet here is an organisation that seeks to trample on and deny those fundamental rights and exclude people who might express or defend those rights.It is a bit like some fundamentalist religious sect in which a small group of gatekeepers and thought police seek to control the the thoughts and behaviour of its members.

This sort of conduct needs to be challenged  and condemned wherever it is encountered.And FFS it is only discussions about audio!A completely harmless and victimless interest.

 

kuribo
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@thyname

Basically everyone is simply hallucinating, whenever they share any experiences, without “proof”, or any measurements to back up their experiences.

I don't think they believe people's experiences are hallucinations. It seems pretty clear to me that they believe there is no place for subjective opinion when evaluating equipment on an objective basis as it is factually empty on an individual basis. One can never reach a logical, rational, supportable conclusion via 3rd party opinion. If one wants to share personal opinion, that is not the site for it.

There is perhaps something to be said for sticking to objectivity- here, in this very thread for example, you can see people called idiots, deaf, and liars simply because they have expressed a subjective opinion that that the op disagreed with, based on his own subjective opinion. Ironic, isn't it?

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