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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
fleschler OP
2,008 posts
 

There are 246 posts on my forum and I would say that 95% share similar attitudes towards ASR and additional criteria to evaluate audio equipment.  I have also become more mindful in my posts from 5 or 15 years ago.  I did make one negative comment at the beginning of this forum but a Audiogon overseer (above the moderator) thought it didn't have to be deleted.  I read Audiogon forums more than several others on a weekly basis.  I also lend my personal and friends personal experiences using equipment and tweaks.  

td_dayton
320 posts
 

doxxing somebody over their opinions about stereo equipment is one of the saddest things i've ever heard. unreal

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wturkey
768 posts
 

"Miscreants"

 

Ouch

esarhaddon
137 posts
 

@mikepowellaudio
 As far as your four questions about how precieved things like Soundstage are measured? I guess you don't like or have any room in your life for Diraclive! Which by the way seems to do a pretty dang good job at not only measuring room accoustics, but also Width, Depth, Soundstage and so much more. THis is not saying that I agreed or dissagree with ASR. I wouldn't know one of their people if he fell from the 4th story in front of me. I just think that many of the comments here are as assignine as what ASR is said to quote. The lack of technical knowlege of these people astounds me.

esarhaddon
137 posts
 

@fleschler I don't know anyting about ASR but the numbers of people on the chat that have no clue about the making of high end audio is astounding. Just like your comment about PRAT. Can you mix metaphores any more? I love PS Ausio's response to that question. That is like comparing Horse power to tire pressure.
https://www.psaudio.com/askpaulvideo/what-is-prat/

I don't mind a helthy back and forth on a topic but this is nonsense for the most part and just more Cancel Culture nonsense form people that I would like to respect but as I told the moderators, it is getting hard to respect many of the people here anymore. Most of the time  I spend trying to bring some ballance to the conversation and I only get called out and told that I don't even know my own words. Like on this very post were one person told me that I actually meant to say something different than what I said. I think I know  what I meant to say.

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