What's Up with Magnapan at Shows?

Getting the low end response of the six foot Magnepan's does not usually happen in the many systems I have heard. The room and objects in the room must be just right. The 3.7's in Valin's and Hp's rooms do not do much below 45 Hz! The IIIa's and 3.6's do go down to 30 Hz in most properly setup rooms. 10 to 15 Hz is a huge difference!

How many other speakers manufacturers use a series crossover? It is a poor design choice.

Box subs with Magnepans never give coherent low bass, that is no solution.

Bass reproduction below 30 Hz is a mess in the home, due to uncontrollable peaks and dips! A flat response is not in the game.

Besides there is not hardly any missing musical info below 30 Hz! So just avoid the inevitable frustration, and only go down to 30! The IIIa and 3.6 will, and the 3.7 won't. Why is the 3.7 better? I do not buy the Hype!

The little, extra, bass panel attempt at improvement is BS!

Donc55, It is interesting to observe the bewildering array of reactions to the 3.7's. I have done nothing special in my 15x19x8 listening room. Maybe I just got lucky. On the other hand, when I auditioned the 3.7's before purchase, the room was a completely different room. Larger, with the Maggies along the long wall instead of the short wall. The salon had gone to a great deal of trouble in setting up the room. Of course they sounded good in that room. But other speakers, not so much. Including the highly regarded Aerial 7T's, which certainly go much deeper than the Maggies. In my humble opinion, the 3.7's are better than the 3.6's by a wide margin. More musical, certainly more coherent. The crossovers in the .6 series speakers could sound pretty awful sometimes especially with french horns and female voices. Ice picks in the ear drums bad. Sorry man, its not hype. I've been living with Maggies for 23 years. The 3.7's are the best Maggies I have heard without going into the tympanis or 20.'s. I never heard the IIIa's or 2.6R's, but I certainly know the 3.5's, 3.6's and 1.6's. The 3.7's are better than the 3.6's to my ears.

" The crossovers in the .6 series speakers could sound pretty awful sometimes especially with french horns and female voices. Ice picks in the ear drums bad."

LOL!

That is your digital recordings reproduced accurately !

Look at Magnepan's published specs:

Mg 3.6 34Hz to 45 KHz +/- 4db

Mg 3.7 37Hz to 45Khz +/- ??? Hz

That says it all, the 3.7 bass response is not as low!

3.7 specs say they reach down to 35Hz.

@Hasse

There is no frequency response spec. from Magnepan on the 3.7, just a range!

Which is meaningless!!!

You need a measurement with +/- dB.

The older models also state "minimum average in a typical room".

Jim Winey was more of a "fanatic" than his son Mark, I have met them both.

I live in Saint Paul, and know people that use to work at Magnepan. It is a nice very small, family operation. They are good honest people.

Why did Mark Winey refuse to submit the 3.7 to stereophile for testing, saying the the frequency response was proprietary? LOL! Because it sucks for a speaker priced close to $6,000! That's Why!

Do not argue!

Just rent a professional, calibrated SPL meter, use the Stereophile test CDs, and find out for yourself! If you want them setup right, in your own room, that is necessary! I own both the IIIa and 3.6 and have done that, in several rooms. I have done a quick check with a hand held RTA on the 3.7 in different rooms, and they do not go as low.

As far as the 3.7 suggested better "COHERENCE" goes. What is that??? And how do you measure that???? Every Magnepan from 1970 on is "coherent", and I have heard most of them.

IMO Magnepan reached the end, with the previous models. Now the reviewers bring up "problems" with the old models (that they never mentioned before) to make the new ones appear better and increase sales! It is an old trick! And it has been repeated by every audio company and reviewer forever.

If you like the 3.7 that's fine, good for you.