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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
cd318
2,636 posts
 

@rtorchia 

I am still amazed at the vehemence of the attacks on Amir and his following on this thread. All he is doing is applying scientific criteria to his reviews of audio components. Additionally, he provides extremely valuable insights into craftsmanship that is often sadly lacking in high priced equipment.

 

Their vehemence might not look so amazing if they have a vested interest in promoting high priced equipment.

Not when their most sacred cash cows are being led to the slaughter by Klippel. 


For them, what Amir is doing is not kosha and it's not halal.

Such is the way of the world of man and money.

noske
783 posts
 

@cd318 Their vehemence might not look so amazing if they have a  were obligated to disclose their vested interest in promoting high priced equipment.

Fixed.

kota1
2,706 posts
 

@CD318, if you like what Amir writes that's great. I'm sure he likes what you write too, write him a check, its your money after all.  

noske
783 posts
 

@invalid Science can be manipulated, take damping factor for instance, it can be measured at 1khz instead of 20hz to 20khz.

Or, take output impedance. The spec may say 100 ohms or whatever, but at low frequencies, say at 20hz, it may be several thousand ohms.

The spec is a single data point.. That is not science, and in fact quite the opposite to what you state. It is marketing, and that is OK if you are of a forgiving nature which I know many here on AG are.

I only know what I said in my first paragraph because of the knowledge revealed by ASR in a review of a Schiit pre-amp some years ago where a full frequency sweep was taken. That is science - total transparency, pimples!!

invalid
1,190 posts
 

@noske 

 

Yes, total transparency like when Amir measured a large planar speaker at 1 meter.

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