Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

sam_adams of ASR finally figured it out it was me.  Of course he took what I posted there out of context.   Shaving CDs, tried it and don't use it.  Paid $150, now selling above $1000.  Destat CDs, every time.   Synergistic Research cables-I never said they had magical properties but ASR members think that the company is committing fraud on the public and Ted Denney has committed a crime and should be imprisoned.   

And tmtmoh states that someone on this forum said that $500 and $1000 speakers sound the same (NOT).   That we believe in audio myths.   How many times did I post that measurements are important and can reveal a significant amount of the performance of equipment?   Yet, this counter forum states that we at Audiogon don't believe in measurements.   Ha Ha.  I'm getting a little thrill at poking fun at the miscreants of ASR (they hate that word-sorry).  Plus, they don't read all of this forum, just a few posts. 

@fleschler : please give this whole thing up. This entire thing is not worth your time, and mental well-being. Engaging with the ASR militia is not only unproductive, but also outright dangerous. Trust me

@nonoise : +1. Fantastic article. Things we all know, but unable to articulate so decisively and eloquently, albeit still in down to earth, common folks speak

@nonoise very good article and I am also intrigued by the Soulnote product. Very relatable article, thank you for posting the link.

"If you can’t measure it then it’s placebo effect". I have an opinion, you have an opinion, can we measure these opinions, yes, are they the same, no. You can measure everything, doesn't mean we all like the same result.