Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

This is just awesome, first, @kota1 posts this welcoming message:

@smprather welcome to the forum...I think you will find the process very non confrontational and supportive.

Then the belittling follow-up by @fleschler 

@smprather  You just joined Audiogon so that you could post to support Amir.  You've been an ASR member for 3 years and posted 3 times.  Wow!!! Impressive. 

It would be hard to make this stuff up.

@mitch2, maybe @smprather is sincere and not a drive by poster, let's see if he responds. If he is here just to throw rocks you can't blame @fleschler 

@kota1 Yes, if smprather wants to impart some information of substance on audio equipment and music, please do.  Otherwise...  

@mitch2 I am not attempting to belittle him (assuming it's a male) but I do find it just as coincidental that Amir decided to defend himself, his site and his view on the audio industry here as a new member while we cannot do likewise on "his" site.   I certainly didn't want to start an argument when I joined ASR.  All I did was comment on my own experience with the CD trimmer (trial) and I will end up selling it for possibly a 10X profit.  ASR members could not appreciate a trial of equipment.   And Amir is "hiding" the results of a poorly designed/measured $20K DAC because the manufacturer was "kind" enough to lend it to him for testing.  Boy, that's benefiting audiophiles.   Not!  

I just have to say I love the sound of my stereo system.  It has a black background with excellent imaging and a holographic sound stage with fast, punchy bass.  But please take everything I say with a grain of salt because I use cable lifters, room treatments and expensive power cords.  Oh, even worse, I have mechanically isolated all of my stereo components from any vibrations above 3 Hz.  I'm completely irrational.  I don't know what else to say.  I have no defense.  I'm a half step away from tube rolling- if only I could get some tubes.  

Meanwhile, back to some music.

Oh, and let me add this in defense of my irrational behavior regarding stereo playback reproduction.  I played MJ's Thriller last night.  It gave me goose bumps on both arms and the back of my neck.  I have owned that vinyl record since 1983, or whichever year it came out.  After 40 years of playing that record my stereo can still affect me so.  If your stereo can give you goosebumps then you are there.  Sit back and enjoy.  

How do you measure that?