Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Thank you kota1 for those kind words.  I'm typing between songs.  I just played Eminence Front, by The Who.  Can't get enough of that song.

I'm getting old and have been retired for about 20 months now.  I am so grateful to have the time and means to invest in my audio hobby.  I enjoyed listening to music from college days through my career as a form of stress relief.  Now it is more enjoyable than ever.

Was working high stress?  Well, I tell people that when I was working I used to sleep like a baby.  I would wake up during the night crying every 2 hours.  Now I sleep through the night- except for when my shoulder hurts...

@fleschler +1

Amir decided to defend himself, his site and his view on the audio industry here as a new member while we cannot do likewise on "his" site.

That is a very good point, and on his site he even has his own moderator to get him out of the corners he paints himself into.

Amir,Thanks for coming here and responding in a level-headed manner.I do not agree with your approach to assessing audio equipment because I believe it is too narrow in its focus but I believe your intentions are good and your methodology is sound and professional.The idea is fine but like a lot of good ideas the enforcement becomes the problem.And that is the problem with ASR forum.There does seem to be a hardcore group of enforcers at ASR that seem to take delight in headkicking and kicking off anybody that questions the narrative.In my experience the worst of these are B.D.Woody,SIY and Jim Taylor.Naive objectivism has created a monster.Which is a shame.The topic deserves better.You deserve better.

It’s like wine tasting ... we can objectively measure acidity and spectrum analyze the exact chemical composition, still people will smell and taste different things.

The wine equivalent is the music you play. The right analogy is the glass.  Testing is to make sure your gear like that glass doesn't impart it's own coloration and distort the art.

Too bad it really doesn't work like that or home audio would truly sound like real live instruments being played, and it does not.