Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

Amir welcome. So are these negative posts having a negative impact on  your collection basket?

Thank you.  We don't have ads on ASR Forum. If we did, negative and bickering posts would help with that in how it increases page views.   So you have that backward on two fronts.  The fight here is helping the owner collection basket. Have you filed protests on that?

@kota1 I believe that you're asking too much from Amir and ASR. Amir has a firm grip on ASR. Amir has strong convictions. Amir is intentionally deaf to opinions expressed which go against his convictions.

 

I am not deaf to anything or I would not tested huge number of ineffective audiophile tweaks.  The more data the better.  Some of you rather not see this data. It angers you even though you lack technical knowledge of the field. You could choose to learn. But instead come here to complain, acting like you know more than whole of audio science.  So look to yours6fir character flaws.   That is where the answer is if you want to advance your knowledge of audio.

Amir, your detractors here have a collective motto: “Don’t confuse us with the facts because we know we are right.” It is thus improbable that they will give you a fair hearing.

The hobbyists and audiophiles on this forum comprise people that are both highly intelligent and highly motivated.  Many have a background in music or audio or both.  These are creative people that can think beyond linear A to B.  This is the type of creativity that drives innovation and change.  Discovery and ideas almost always come before understanding.  

Now we have a guy with no credentials in either music or audio walking around with an ohmmeter claiming these people are deluding themselves.  Of course that is a trigger point.  Galileo was imprisoned by the Catholic Church for saying that the earth was round.  The leaders of the day had to protect the public from this "deluded" man.  They refused to accept other possibilities.  Technology has changed the world but some people never change.

There was a story in the early 1990s about GM hiring a former car thief to try to break into their new model car featuring the latest in anti-theft technology.  GM engineers were so confident in their newest anti-theft deterrents that they put a large timer on stage and unrehearsed had this former car thief attempt to break in and steal the car in front of an audience of car dealers.  The story goes that the former thief walked on stage with a sledgehammer and hit the front bumper.  The airbag deployed and the doors immediately unlocked.  The guy got in the car with a screwdriver and started the car.  The large timer showed just a few seconds had elapsed.  Yes, the engineers had egg on their face.  Linear thinking has its advantages but also has limitations.