@crymeanaudioriver You LIE just like Amir. You know very well as I clearly stated how he took a neutral statement about someone's preferred music and pervertedly twisted it into a negative character comment which I DO NOT DO. I was NOT commenting on ASR's preference on NOT permitting, untested/unscientific backing for an experience. I WAS CLEARLY stating that contorting and twisting statements to say the opposite and character assassination are defaming.
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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This is the problem with a lot of posters on this forum as the above is a mischaracterization. Most everything I read on ASR that deals with electronics, leave speakers aside for the moment, is not that better measurements equal better sound but better engineered components with improved noise and distortion measurements. The contention is if you take a " less expensive " component with better measurements can you differentiate it from a more expensive boutique component with worse measurements or an SS one from tube using controlled testing. Their argument isn't better measurements give better sound but it's highly unlikely people could tell the difference when bias is accounted for, so for those so inclined save money with electronics and concentrate on speakers and DSP or room treatments to achieve your desired sound signature. For speakers, research has shown most people prefer a flat FR when measured in an anechoic chamber and wide dispersion. The reasoning I believe is a speaker with a flat FR anechoicly is much easier to get it to work well in a lot of different rooms. Doesn't mean everyone wants that. This better measurements = better sound is in this threads title but it certainly isn't the takeaway I've gotten from reading a lot of threads on ASR. |
@teo_audio Oh, very good lecture. I will use this in a Toastmaster's meeting if that's okay with you. In my religion, we debate everything in life and in many families children question everything. Maybe that's why so many of my kinsmen are wildly out of proportion to are small population, Nobel laureates, scientists and inventors. |
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