Just like ASR.
Sure, people dare voice views you don't share and they must be ignored and called "trolls."
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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@prof not updating a thing and gfys. 🦑🦑 |
@prof Yes, we do have a lot in common. However, if you read all my posts, I am a 20+ year beta tester for a boutique cable manufacturer who is devote about not ripping off customers (under $1000 for his best cables and about $350 for his lesser ones). He loses sales because they don’t sell for more/audiofool anticipation that more expensive equals better. (He is not a good businessman, but a genius just the same-it takes him two hours to manufacture a pair of ICs or power cables). In that vein, I have auditioned and/or tried many high end manufacturer cables and found most of them color the sound, alter the sound or just sound bad (e.g. very expensive, giant magnet in line High Fidelity cables-defunct finally although there are still many adherents that they are great). Some just sound better than others. But at what price? The Pangea power cables my friend used on his high end system are both cheap and sound bad on three systems. He (and his music friends) are elated that his system sounds like the $1/2 million he said he spent on it. He kept changing amps because he thought there was something wrong with his sound but couldn’t point to it. He tried $60,000 D’Agostino amps and lost $22K reselling that. Once he heard just one power cable on his PS Audio BHK250 and his redesigned Dynaco 70 (radical) he was convinced that power cables make a difference, contrary to his prior stubborn belief that they don’t. That is not proof but coming from me, a guy whose tried and heard so many power cables, should have some credence. I also have a great deal of recording and mastering experience as I’ve noted. My friend’s system had a radically, out of balance sounding frequency response and weird ambiance/soundstaging. He gladly enjoys company (72) and you are welcome to hear his (and my) system. |
@fleschler , many thanks for staring this thread. You have a nice way of communicating in a transparent fashion whether or not you agree or disagree with something, it never feels like you are "disagreeable. I liked your post in particular about how if you get the room right even more entry level gear will be very satisfying. |
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