Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

@prof

I can see your point of view regarding ASR.

I don’t know if you have been a member long enough to have seen some of my skirmishes with Amir and crew. One got a bit crazy. But for me it’s always water-under-the-bridge.

Nice post of yours directly above this one.

Re the quoted one, thanks. I think I first posted there around Christmas time. I read reviews a few years prior. Didn’t find your user name but give me a clue and I’ll follow up :-) Best to avoid heavy baggage I agree.

@prof note my quote above from Carl Jung. Nothing more to add at this point.

Scientific measuring for the sake of ascertaining something is useful and needed but not for every damn claim made by someone who hears a difference. The fanaticism exhibited here by some in the objectivist camp are akin to religious extremism.

Every conceivable excuse as to why you can't hear what you're hearing is right up there with being born with original sin. That you can't hear correctly and are a fool to trust your senses, is quite an asinine position to take for a harmless and simple hobby.

Saving you from yourself (emotionally and economically) is yet another parallel aspect of this religious like zealotry. So is having a flock of sheep followers and acolytes sent out to other lands (websites) to combat (think Crusades), proselytize and convert.

If god were never invented or ASR never existed, we'd all be right where we're at, enjoying our hobby and sharing our experiences, as if none of this ever arrived on our doorstep in a flaming paper bag.

All the best,
Nonoise

ASR uses science in the title but really reflects an engineering culture. Amir himself says they (generally) don’t do science, but measurements, which is correct.

My day job is in ecology, so I work with scientists, engineers, comms people, policy and legal and so on. In my experience science and engineering cultures differ: scientists observe reality, form hypotheses and test them via experimentation; engineers learn complex rule systems and solve problems by applying those rules. I think that’s why the core ASR dialectic is so linear-mechanistic. It’s all about the rules. Curiosity, less so.

I also like the old saying "in theory, theory and practice are the same, in practice, they aren't". The interesting people at ASR are these with enough experience and intelligence to see (and see the humour in) this.

Wow, I haven’t dropped by in a couple of days.  Still going, I see.

”The beatings will continue until morale improves.”