Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?


After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

fleschler
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From the ASR forum, I stated, unequivocally, that equipment should be heard in a system in a room to determine a purchase. Regardless of the test measurements. Test measurements in sound only get one so far (ASR/Amir’s golden standard). Hearing is the platinum standard (me). Everyone has different music preferences and hearing capabilities (the physical and the learned from none/novice to experienced/golden ears). Knowing that, even if the measurements are the same, there generally are sonic differences one can hear and prefer.

I prefer tube amplification and multi-driver dynamic speakers in my room and system. The equipment is not perfect as tubes incur higher distortion than solid state (generally) and multi-driver systems have their own problems such as time alignment, phase shifts and dynamic compression.

@kota1 knows this and amply contributed to the ASR forum. I choose/chose my equipment, cables, tweaks based on hearing them in my listening rooms, not because they measured well or at all.

However, the query remains as to why don’t manufacturers supply their own test measurements and depend on reviewers?

Knowing measurements of the equipment I own, borrowed or owned "may" have  helped eliminate some wrong choices in the past.

My audiophile friend who is also a car sales manager of many decades reads car test measurements and comparisons with ample scrutiny. He gave me an example today that in one review, one sports car had 600 horsepower and the other 490 horsepower yet in a race, the 490 always beat the 600. Why, well what was left out of the review was that the 490 car had one ton less weight than the 600. Could that have been the reason? Probably.

ASR insn't infallible but 99% of the time you can do the opposite of what ASR says and be in good shape.

ASR is the Shock Jock of the audiophile world, posting rediculous claims supposedly backed up by numbers, to create havoc and clics.  Unfortunately, the controvsy is making them rich.

Jerry

@petg60 There are high end product buyers based on specs alone.  Why don't high end manufacturers who are so proud of their products provide test measurements in addition to specs?  

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