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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

@nonoise ,

Trolls are so adept at dancing on the head of a pin. 

Maybe less snark, more valuable contribution?  Maybe understanding what the word troll means in the context?

 

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jerryg123
3,429 posts
 

NAD is effectively a Chinese company with Banking in Canada.

Great many EU companies still making Tube, A/B amplification that is highly regraded.

The dinosaur wont die and they still sound GREAT! No matter what the crybabies and Amir say. Oops, Amir only measures never listens. 

I think they are effectively Canadian now

 

 

td_dayton
320 posts
 

again, the idea that a handful of measurements conducted by the members of one site somehow invalidates the actual musical listening experiences of generations of listeners just seems kind of absurd. you can learn a lot from measuring gear, but how that translates into "what sounds good" is where things get murky. i can go to ASR right now and say "rogue sphinx is a killer little amp for the money. ive owned it and it rules. trust your ears" and people who have never even heard one will immediately score points off me because it measured "bad". like buddy, try it and then there might be a conversation. otherwise you’re just repeating someone else’s argument

also, axo1989 posted links to some contentious threads there and i recommend checking them out - despite how some of those fellas speak to others, fundamental issues like "what to measure" are far from settled

crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

NAD is effectively a Chinese company with Banking in Canada.

 

They have a contract manufacturer in China, like Apple, and everyone else. Do you consider Apple a Chinese company?

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nonoise
10,579 posts
 

Maybe understanding what the word troll means in the context?

That treads a fine line between humor and trolling. 

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