Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
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Well - the Virginia trip grew some legs. Beyond my niece's wedding and the Bill Thalmann / Music Technology visit, we added two pairs of vintage Thiel speakers to our stable from Long Island. Oblgny's 2.4s augment a pair borrowed from audiojan to allow mix and match upgrade comparisons. Oblgny's complaint about the 2.4s revolves around the power (listening volume) required for them to come to life. My only observation is that the listening space is essentially a whole house due to large openings at the listening room side and rear, plus an open stairway to the second floor. The design brief for the model 2 is geared toward smaller, more intimate spaces. One of these years, I see oblgny being happy with Renaissance CS3.5s, which assume a larger listening volume. 

A couple of towns down the road, I picked up the 7.2s from a retiring and downsizing electrical engineer. His substantial system was already dismantled, but looked to have been quite upscale. We called his pair CS7.1s, as they were upgraded CS7s, retaining their concrete baffles and steel grille frames. These baffles are not cracked, as many have become from shrinkage. The drivers are all fully Thiel, made in-house. I look forward to documenting them and eventually coaxing them into even higher performance. 

A late exit (4:30) from Locust Valley turned into 3.5 hours to circumnavigate 45 miles around NYC and arrive Berryville, Virginia around 1:AM. No problems.

My trip to Bill Thalmann's Music Technology in Springfield (south DC) resulted in 3 productive hours comparing listening notes and agreeing on a strategy for the EQ. To allow for a larger power transformer and generous circuit layout, we are moving the powersupply to its own chassis, with enough power for two EQs in case of fully balanced configuration. Jim Williams' upgrade is already a substantial improvement over Jim Thiel''s original design due to quieter transistors and regulating the power supply. Bill T. and Jim W both judged Jim T's design as 'elegant' with plenty of room for improvement. I'm excited. Within a week or two, I'll be ordering caps and resistors for Bill's new treatment. For the record, we're seeking a top-drawer PC board designer for this project.

We listened through Bill's upgrade of my original Classé DR6 which is now absolutely glorious. The DR9s have been reworked but still await new parts.

I also left my second Adcom GFA555 for Bill's full treatment. I'm also seeking to buy an OPPO 105 (not necessarily D) player for Bill's full-fledged upgrade. He completely replaces the analog audio section making the 'D' treatment redundant. Please feel free to guide me to a low-hours player for me to send to Bill.

I also report an opportunity for the right person. Bill seeks an apprentice to learn his considerable craft. Any leads can be sent to me for further briefing. There is more work than his shop can handle, and it's not easy to find the right candidate for an additional Music Technologist.

Monday evening's drive landed me home in New Hampshire around 2:AM

tomthiel

Outstanding! What a trip!?  Good to read that you are back on NH home soil.

An incredible collection of Audio toys for your Hot Rod testing. Another incredible factor is Bill awaiting parts for the Classe’ amps. Very impressive.

 

Watch eBay or U.S. Audiomart for an Oppo player. They are plentiful!

Thank you for confirming that Bill still offers those upgrades.  I hope to see his Operation someday before retirement.  No doubt that he enjoys a thriving Audio shop.  Can you comment on his Listening room or test bench gear ?

 

Happy Listening!

oblgny - on the bright side, you have virtually no standing wave problems. Also, you can pressurize the propagation space with a subwoofer (or two) to reduce main driver excursions for cleaner sound. Or sliding doors to wall off that large (dining) alcove would create a better defined sonic launch end. The room is generally highly under appreciated re its sonic contribution. I suggest focusing your efforts there rather than seeking solutions from audio equipment.

The record-making process assumes 'normalcy' for playback. Normal dimensions, symmetry, etc. Room EQ Wizzard, FuzzMeasure, etc. can give you some clues re problems and solutions efficacy. See where that takes you.