Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy


"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler

@kota1

You control everyone at ASR and we have a consensus of members here who feel you heavily censor your site and bannish contributors on a whim.

ASR has possibly hundreds of active members and dozens of threads, without checking. Such power of control that you attribute to Amir! The bloke must never sleep.

There are here a few disgruntled folk here who feel entitled to have their say on a forum about which they are shocked, horrified and mortified.

I’d bannish myself on a whim were I to insist on pushing the general guidelines to such a point that I became the antipathy of what the spirit of the forum is intended to convey.

I made an innocent mistake on an unrelated forum a while ago and was banished for making light of a certain person in high office. I was unaware of certain strict protocols.

I own my mistake, however innocent it may have been.

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As to the Benchmark L4 versus the CJ pre-amp, one of the comments was The LA4 certainly isn't "lacking" anything. It's just transparent. But I could say it does 'lack' certain things in the sense of comparison to the CJ tube preamp.  Based on my experience with both brands, I found CJ to have a house sound, not one that I or my friends prefer.  The Benchmark, on the other hand, stock is clean and clear but lacking in areas the CJ excels-body and warmth of expression.  

There is a cure for the Benchmark.  Replace the computer quality, cheap-ass regulators, power and filter caps, maybe parts of the audio board, the Op-amp, etc. with audio (much more costly) parts.  Benchmark products are only okay stock but can be great when modified.  Their HDR-1 DAC is a great example of a terrific design with mediocre execution.  It is a giant killer when modified.  

You can't help yourself to defend yourself on an open forum, unlike your own ASR. 

 

Why wouldn't Amir defend himself?

If someone was defaming you on another public forum, wouldn't you think it reasonable to defend yourself?  It makes sense to defend yourself directly to the criticisms in said forum, given people are mostly disinclined to come over to ASR to take a nuanced view of what goes on there.  As we've repeatedly seen the forum strawmanned in this thread.

Do you expect to just be able to publicly  criticize anyone you want, and with any level of misrepresentation, without any consequence or pushback?

 

 

 

 

@fleschler , would it be safe to say you are not an electrical designer or electrical engineer? If so, under what authority do you make the following comment?

 

There is a cure for the Benchmark.  Replace the computer quality, cheap-ass regulators, power and filter caps, maybe parts of the audio board, the Op-amp, etc. with audio (much more costly) parts.  Benchmark products are only okay stock but can be great when modified.  Their HDR-1 DAC is a great example of a terrific design with mediocre execution.  It is a giant killer when modified.