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Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy

"Audiophiles are Snobs"  Youtube features an idiot!  He states, with no equivocation,  that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good.  He is either deaf or a liar or both! 

There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review.  If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public.  They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better.   They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance.   Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.  

Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?  

fleschler
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russ69
3,507 posts
 

I didn't watch the video, but I'll take any Arnie Nudell designed Infinity over any Toole tested loudspeaker.

juanmanuelfangioii
958 posts
 

Less than 50% of the equipment reviewed and tested are even listened to. A handful of DBT all done by members? 

Never mind the man behind the curtain. 

 

kota1
2,706 posts
 

@russ69 +1, Nudell on trickle down tech:

Nudell: At Infinity we started with a very expensive speaker, the Servo Statik, and brought some of the technology down to lower price levels. We've found that some of the most successful companies, be they audio or anything else, start with the highest technology. After people around the world acknowledge that this is the highest technology, then you bring that technology to more affordable prices.

 

crymeanaudioriver
101 posts
 

You can assume I am not interested in your findings on audio equipment I have zero interest in. You are correct you are not a scientist nor an engineer. Nor are you a professional reviewer, you are average joe with some software and that is it.

 

@jerryg123 you have created a topic where you claim that the Alpha Audio cable test presents new data. There is nothing new, just the resistance of cables which was always known, and which I see being discussed many many times.  How do you reconcile your lack of knowledge in this area with your attack or Amir above?

noske
783 posts
 

@crymeanaudioriver

With a margin of likely well over 1000%, I don’t think some returns or even a lot of returns is an issue. Even 50% would be totally acceptable.

Amazon’s return rate I think is close to 20%.

Those are quite astonishing statistics.

I am actually very careful to only buy from vendors who do not offer any marketing guarantees as to their generous return policy. . Think.

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