Audio Science Review = Rebuttal and Further Thoughts

I seem to remember people here crowing about how ASR shut their thread down, while Agon wasn’t doing that.

How things change ;-)

 

Anyway, fleschler, I’m sorry but I’m going to be blunt: It’s clear that your previous comments about the quality of the standard Benchmark gear were totally and utterly ill-informed.  You haven't produced one single bit of evidence for your claims about the "junk parts" or any evidence you know what you are talking about.

I’m being blunt because frankly I find it quite galling when truly esteemed and accomplished engineers (and engineering) is sh*t upon by audiophiles who don’t have any real knowledge, going on their pseudo-scientific intuitions.

It reminds me of the moon-landing deniers. On one hand it’s harmless stuff, the fantasies of people who combine ignorance with hubris. But it’s not *just* harmless - by denying the moon landing they are sh*tting on one of humankind’s greatest achievements, and spreading the idea it was fake.

Similarly, seeing a similar combination of ignorance and hubris ("I know more because My Golden Ears are better than anyone’s engineering experience!") spreading ideas like Benchmark’s products underperforming due to "poor implementation of parts." It’s just ridiculous, and I can’t pretend for a second to respect it.

 

 

@prof : I am scratching my head… why don’t you participate in forums with like minded people with the same beliefs and ideology like ASR? Do you really have to team up here with human equivalent of malware like @crymeanaudioriver who literally got banned and resurfaced here with dozen+ of usernames? 
 

crymeanaudioriver

 

theaudiomaniac 

 

theaudioamp

 

deludedaudiophile

 

thynamesinnervoice

 

cindyment

 

snratio

 

yesiamjohn

 

sugabooger

 

dletch2

 

audio2design

 

dannad

 

roberttdid 

 

roberttcan 

 

heaudio123

 

audiozenology

 

atdavid

@crymeanaudioriver just go. Dancing on the head of a pin!

 

 

crymeanaudioriver

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10-15-2022 at 11:27pm 

@tammyholt , someone seems to just want to stir things up.

thyname

I'm not "teaming up" with anyone.

I am scratching my head… why don’t you participate in forums with like minded people with the same beliefs and ideology like ASR?

I do.  I've been a member quite a while at ASR.

However, I find the direction of interest in gear too constrained for me at ASR, and I enjoy discussing the subjective aspects of they hobby - exchanging notes on what things sound like etc.  That doesn't go down so well over there. (I mentioned that in the other ASR thread).

For instance if you look at my long running (and quite popular) thread on Agon in which I report my impressions of lots of speakers, that would go down mostly with a thud at ASR, because it's all subjective.  No data.

So ASR satisfies one aspect of my approach, places like Agon satisfy another. 

 

Sorry @prof , have not been following this ASR thread(s) closely. Any thread Cin Dyment aka @crymeanaudioriver this time around is pointless. It’s a “drama” I have seen dozens of time before.I just see you arguing a lot the party line position of ASR. So I was just wondering. I do remember you praising Devore speakers who measure like crap according to the party line of ASR, so I know you do listen to determine your preferences in this hobby. It’s fine, it’s just a hobby. Not a life or death situation