Lumin T2 burn in time?

Hi tah800

Sorry to hear that you are finding the app difficult.
There are sections in the online manual to cover most things here: https://luminmusic.com/manual

A good starting point for what you describe above is here:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-introduction.html

The main thing to know is that LUMIN will only play tracks from its own playlist.
This is the list shown on the left on tablet, or in the middle screen on phone.
If something is playing on LUMIN, then it has been added to this playlist.

The icons at the bottom of it let you save, load and delete these LUMIN Playlists.

To get things into the playlist, you need to use the browse window first. Selecting them will move them into the Playlist. Depending on your settings, there are different ways that tracks move across. Some people requested that adding a track also adds the whole album, so there are options for that, as well as selecting multiple tracks. This is explained in more detail halfway down this page:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-browsing.html

If you use TIDAL playlists as your primary music organisation method, then you might prefer using TIDAL Connect (if you have a more recent LUMIN Model). It really depends if you also use locally stored music, or other streaming services and want to mix playlists.

If not using TIDAL Connect, read on.

You can add a whole TIDAL playlist to your LUMIN Playlist from within the app by browsing TIDAL > My Music > Playlists.
Then you can press and hold on the whole playlist to add it to the LUMIN Playlist.
Depending on which button you press it will add to the end/current position or replace the whole playlist.
The button icons are described on that link above too.

What isn't possible is that when you add tracks to a playlist in TIDAL, it will automatically add them to the LUMIN one - you'd have to navigate to and press and hold the playlist again.

For details on how to save/load playlists see here:
https://luminmusic.com/manual/app-playlist.html

The only thing I wasn't sure on was why a playlist might have disappeared. But perhaps it was just confusion between seeing the browse window and seeing the playlist window. As mentioned in the manual, getting an overview of the app is best done on tablet if possible.

I hope that's helped a bit, but hopefully a good read of the manual will help further.
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@thingswelike Happy Lumin T2 owner here. I do agree with others above, that playlist organization is not a strong suit of the Lumin app. And I too struggled the first few days understanding the concept of adding tracks to a playlist to get them to play one song to the next. Coming from Blue Sound it just didn't make sense. I've seen this complaint from numerous others all across the web.

Why isn't Lumin listening? I think the whole app is due for a complete redesign/ rethink.

That said, I do love my T2. It's gotten to the point that I rarely look at the digital section of this forum. It just doesn't interest me. Now my focus is listening to the music. The T2 will likely be my streamer for life.

Cheers,
Joe

Hey @tah800, I actually think the lumin app is pretty good once you get used to it.  I especially like the pop up menu from any song on the playlist or the browse window to search for a song, album, or artist.   Sometimes you hear a song you like and want to see what other albums or songs does the artist have, or sometimes you might like to see if there are other covers of a particular song.   I think that's a great feature and it saves a lot of time.  I'm talking about using Tidal here.  This feature doesn't apply to Spotify.

The one thing I don't like which I already mentioned in this post is the 'shuffle/random' feature.  It is just poorly implemented.  Hey @thingswelike, are there any chance that you guys are going to fix the 'random' play feature?  Thanks.

I'll pass on your thoughts to the team.

@xcool What is it about the 'random' play that you don't like? That's the first time I've heard it criticised.
Can you describe a test that would be repeatable by the support team?

HI @thingswelike, I’m cutting and pasting from my earlier post in this thread on the ’shuffle’ feature. Thanks!

For testing, just play a list of songs and turn on shuffle mode, and see if you can hear a song repeated before the current playlist is finished. I’m a software engineer myself, so I would say just look at the code, and see how the shuffle feature is implemented. If the logic does not keep a list of already played songs, then randomly picking the next song can possibly pick a song that’s already been played. My preferred logic for this feature is to first randomize all the songs and create a playlist in this randomized order and play from start to finish. If new songs are added to the playlist while it is still playing, then I would say re-randomize all the songs that haven’t been played plus the newly added songs.

Anyway, this is my original post on this issue. Thanks again!

"BTW, I have another comment about the Lumin App. It’s about the implementation of the "shuffle/random" feature of the playlist.

First of all, when the shuffle feature is turned on, the current playlist is still displayed in the original insertion order, and I noticed that some songs can possible be selected more than once before the playlist is finished. Also, you have no idea what the next song will be ahead of time. It seems to me that the shuffle implementation picks the next song randomly when the current song is finished, therefore it is possible that a song can be played more than once. Am I correct with my observation?

I’m comparing your implementation against something like the Cambridge Audio app. In the Cambridge implementation, when shuffle feature is turned on, the current playlist gets randomized and displayed in this new randomized order. You know exactly what the next song will be, and also the same song will not be played more than once before all the songs in the playlist have been played."