Audio Science Review = Rebuttal and Further Thoughts

if you need measurements to tell a piano from a flute, then I don’t know what to tell you… Maybe take on another hobby?

Sorry @thyname but I am person A in the above scenario. so I cannot speak to what the person B’s hearing.

Maybe take it up with @prof  or @cd318 
I think they both were responding to your posts earlier, and my comments stemmed from those.

This one of their’s was a pearler.

Now it would appear as if all of those differences were largely in our imaginations and have now become as irrelevant as the use of leeches has in healing the sick.

again - I don’t care how you hear, or what you hear… I just want whatever I play to sound like the recorded sound. 

@holmz

I don’t care how you hear, or what you hear… I just want whatever I play to sound like the recorded sound.

Doesn’t everyone?

Some may feel that they can do this by ear alone. The so called ’golden ear’ brigade who have assurance that their hearing is consistently reliable and trustworthy.

All of this without access to the original source of the recording.

Others might want some measurements as a reassurance that their system will be a well balanced one which can handle all genres, all recordings with equal aplomb.

There are some designers who like to combine the 2 approaches.

Peter Comeau of IAG says that he begins with the science (flat frequency response etc) and then finishes by fine tuning by ear.

Peter Comeau of IAG says that he begins with the science (flat frequency response etc) and then finishes by fine tuning by ear.

@cd318 yeah I guess that is mirrored on the consumer end with me using the measurements to weed out things.
If the cabinet resonates, or the distortion is high, or it compresses, or it has a bad pattern, then there is not a great reason to seek out listening.

I liked the part where he talked about getting rid if the things that are wrong.

@cd318 My two Golden Ear friends walk into a room, listen for 10-15 minutes to a few different recordings and can tell me exactly what is wrong with the sound, not necessarily the fix but if it is acoustic, they can point out the cause. It’s best if they are familiar with the recordings and their mastering (provence). If it were a bunch of hip hop rap or sca recordings, none of us could tell anything about the system.  

I highly respect Audio Science Review. I highly respect the expertise and measurement tools they have mastered to do analysis on audio equipment.

The measurements tell how well the signal propagates in then effectively the signal is amplified. Human ears are as diverse as the equipment that is tested. So are tastes in music. Audio accuracy is in the ear of the beholder. I owned Mid-Fi equipment that measured better than many audiophile Audio. It had shamelessly low THD, I’m distortion Damping factor over 400. Audiophile amps sounded so much better. One such audiophile system was Mark Levinson.

While measuring can be a guide, trust your ears.