Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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bigtwin. Looking at RM's specs on the gold PC compared to others, they seem to be the only one I can find selling it with 7 - 14 AWG cables. The others I have seen use 17 AWG and one advertises 15 AWG. Their silver PC also is advertised with 14AWG. And I have found two other vendors that also claim the 14 AWG in silver. But most out there seem to be the smaller version. But even at 3 X 17 AWG for the hot and neutral, that's not bad. But I would pay more for a 10 AWG equivalent compared to a 12 AWG.

@nwres Where are you seeing any specs on this cable?  Im on the RM Digital Store site and can find zero information on the construction of the Odin Gold power cord.

@bigtwin  Sorry for the confusion. The silver version on the RM site has the specs. It's been a while since I went through and compared many of these vendor's images and specs, and when I posted earlier, I was going on memory of my previous investigation. RM's images of both the gold and silver versions show to be thicker than the cables of those from other vendors. Since they seem to use their own images, unlike other vendors that use generic images, I believe the specs on the gold and the silver are consistent. As well as the extra cost that would be associated with the extra material. 

@ullodea here's the link for the Gold power cords I bought. AudioConnector store is very serious, quality stuff, fast shipping, and 15 days hassle free return window.

 

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005004190080033.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.3a7d79d2SP7c4f&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

I'm using facsimile odin 2 silver power cords that I received from RM Digital and they are easily the best power cords I've used, which includes some cables in the thousand dollar range.  I bought them this spring and paid about $110 for 1M and $145 for 2M, excellent value and performance, highly recommended.