Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?


After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

fleschler

@kota1 

@amir_asr I’m demanding graphs AND posting graphs, so where are yours?

I have not seen a single measurement from you regarding topic of this thread: cables.  As for me, you didn't ask me or I would be happy to post a ton:

Here is the Nordost Tyr 2 Coax cable: 

And comparison to generic cable:

 

 

 Belden Iconoclast cable: 

 

And null test with music:

 

Actual recordings are there in the review thread if you want to take a listen and see if you can tell the difference.

You can see a lot more reviews/measurements here: 

Audio Cable Reviews

You have anything like this?  If not, why not?  How can you demand measurements when you don't care about such measurements?

Verified by perpetual blind tests I presume?

Not at all. I thought you all didn't believe in that.  I am just trying to fit in....

 

@Amir ASR this was not my post

@amir_asr , if you don’t post pics, your components, and FR of your room Audiogon Forum is still the system/measurement champ. I told you, I already posted the specs of my cables earlier in this thread. This shouldn’t be difficult to at least answer the bell. Is ASR going to throw in the towel? If so no one on this forum will be surprised but what will the ASR members reading this think? If the reason you can't post anything is you aren't happy with your results feel free to start a new thread here, we have amazing members.

Nice try on the bait and switch....and I still detect lots of air coming from your direction, HOT air.

 

@holmz it was a reference to Revel not Vandys

^true^ but he said:

Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I’ve searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.

… so there is at least one that takes some pride in the measurements.

But 1 out of several hundred does say something.