Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?
After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication. Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review. One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products.
Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications. Those are not test measurements.
I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any. Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements. Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred. Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture. Do they have something to hide? I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.
ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions. Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?
Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."
Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.
I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.
Ok, so I am wrong that you ever participated in, or read the other recent threads on ASR? (In which Amir appeared, and in which his system was posted)? Please be clear on that if I was wrong. In either case, you were the one who wrote:
So if you had not participated in or seen the other ASR threads, how can you tell anyone that you KNOW Amir has never posted his system? Best to pick a story to stick to :-)
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@prof not playing. Hope your battery is fully charged in that trolling motor. Never posted here and he had been asked by several in this thread. Now move along old chap. |
Well @jerryg123 Let’s sum things up. You claimed to Amir:
I then suggested you had been on the very threads in which Amir’s system had been posted. Your reply, instead of admitting the truth, was to claim my memory was failing. So let’s see who is telling the truth. Here is the previous thread on ASR to which I was referring:
As anyone can see for himself, you are posting throughout that thread! Yes, the one I said I thought you’d posted in. In fact, in that very thread YOU once again untruthfullly claimed ASR was only about "Kmart" gear, AMIR did post a link to his system info upon request, right here:
AMIR wrote: "As to my system, you can see a brief overview and pictures in this review thread: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-lyngdorf-roomperfect-eq.6799/
So not only were you lying by implying my memory was wrong, and lying that you "know" Amir has never posted his system or listening room, even Amir’s system itself shows you were making bogus claims that it’s all about "Kmart" gear on ASR. I don’t really know what people get out of trolling...I’ve never really understood the urge to troll...but if you are comfortable being continuously caught out fibbing in public...you do you I guess. People can see what’s what. ;-) |
@prof You are such an expert in your opinion denying the plausibility that I hear great differences and can make an informed opinion of my own. I've heard/tried the green pen, I've heard magic stones and bells and surface treatments. I could tell that there was a difference but to me, they were insignificant and so minor as to not warrant further study. When I say there is a very significant difference, THERE IS!!!!! Just like adding salt and tasting it, unless one has lost that ability. That's why I have rejected so many tweaks as being INSIGNIFICANT to the enjoyment of music. Blind ABX testing on these tweaks and I bet I couldn't identify the differences. Change from six Pangea power cables to six Grover Huffman power cables in a high end/high cost system-OBVIOUSLY SUPERIOR!!!!! Just like adding salt. Just like beating a dead horse here. I've made mistakes, always with subtle changes, tweaks in particular in my prior home with a lesser quality room and system. |
@prof like I said charge those batteries in your trolling motor. Slow day in Toronto? I said again and again I will not set an electronic toe on that shills site. Go Leafs!
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