Good read: why comparing specifications is pointless

That’s it I went to ASR and I am converted. 

@juanmanuelfangioii 

How about you listen to the equipment you review instead of just measuring befor formulating an opinion. 

I listen to well over half of all devices I review.  Every speaker, headphone, headphone amp/dac, gets listened to for example.  Seeing how I review nearly 300 audio devices a year, that is a hell of a lot of listening tests!  Certainly more than any other reviewer out there by far.

So you are completely wrong about that.  How did you get your information anyway?  Just listened to someone else's talking point?

@amir_asr , I know you listen, it is obvious that you sincerely enjoy this hobby.

Just drop $1-2K and fix your room. You know the difference it makes and you will be able to discern the nuances of the equipment you review in a more critical listening environment. I think the issue here is more about what you are hearing in your room because it has a jumble of both direct and reflected sound from all those flat hard surfaces vs if you listen or not.

@cleeds 

This guy @amir_as is just the latest Youtuber wannabe guru to use Audiogon as a tool to drive traffic to their website where they hope to generate revenue. 

My youtube channel has no monetization (ads) even though I am fully qualified to do so.  ASR likewise has no advertising, no sponsors, no nothing.  So there is absolutely no gain for me. 

In return however, every time I post here, it generates traffic, more ads for you to see, etc.  So contribution is one-way in favor of Audiogon.

Regardless, I am only posting in a couple of threads because ASR was mentioned specifically by name.  

@kota1 

@amir_asr you said:

Even major companies like Denon are using and producing same measurements as me although sadly they are not releasing them to consumers.

OK, let’s take a look at the Sound United "Experience Center" where they test the gear as it is meant to be used, in a proper setup. You have two speakers in an untreated room with a mic and a PC. Your in room FR that looks like the Mississippi river during a hurricane.

You don’t have the proper conditions to even listen to MCH gear much less review it, you know that, please stop, ok?

You have gotten a lot wrong there.  Let me start  at the top.  Every Denon and Marantz review is done with prior consultation with the company.  See my last review of Denon AVR-X3800H for example:

And this statement: "I grabbed a preliminary set of measurements from the DAC section of the 3800H and ran it by the company. Within typical margin of error, the measurements were the same as company's own."

So we have the company being fine with my work, but you think something is wrong with my testing?

No, there is nothing wrong.  I perform 2-channel testing because a) a lot of people want to use their AV products for music also and b) I use 2-channel systems as the standard that the AV industry needs to strive to match.

Keep in mind that nothing different happens in an AVR because you have 2 speakers or 10.  Each is calibrated independent of any other channel.  What more than 2 channel does however, is screw up your perception of fidelity.  Research shows the more channels in playback system, the less critical listeners get. 

The above is the reason behind you screwing up the response of your system completely yet still think it is all fine.  You are lost in the spatial qualities of multi-channel, not realizing tonality is screwed up, and bass sucked out of the system.  The research behind this is solid as a rock: