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Disappearing Jazz?

After years of collecting all types of music except jazz and big band I'm now playing catchup.  Looking at the recordings of Ruby Braff (trumpet), Dick Hyman (piano) Roland Hanna (piano). Art Tatum (piano), Claude Bolling even the great vocalist Sarah Vaughan I find the majority of their catalog is only available used on vinyl.  There are many other names I could have included in this list - I'm gradually getting to them (Thelonious Sphere Monk, etc ).

Beyond the lack of availability what alarms me as a new collector of this genre is that there doesn't appear to be musicians to take the place of these giants.  Not to say there are no more Big Bands or jazz pianists BUT how many new artists have the hundreds of recordings these musicians created?

Is jazz disappearing?  Will streaming services eventually include recordings only available on LP? 

Feel free to offer any suggestions for other artists to collect in the traditional jazz / big band category.  I also have collected Miles, Coltrane and Bill Evans though just starting to dive into Ellington.

Hoping to find this music soon.

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

bigquery
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rok2id
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I suggest you start with two books:

"Original Jazz Classics Collector’s guide" (1995)

"All Music Guide to Jazz" 3rd and 4th Editions. (1998 & 2002)

Both paperbacks and only available used.

You will know just about everything recorded by the most important artists, and a very good review of each album.

Don’t be put off by the dates of the books. Remember, a lot of people think that the best year for Jazz was 1959.

Between Amazon, Discogs, Presto and ebay, you should find most of it.

+1 JAZZ FOR AFICIONADOS thread.

Cheers

BTW, If they could be easily replaced, they would not have been considered giants.

jafant
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bigquery

 

The Jazz torch continues to burn brighter than ever. As you start collecting, check out WWOZ on-line. This will get you on the right Path.

 

Happy Listening!

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bigtwin
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I have found a lot of the Verve and Blue Note catalogues being re issued and often re mastered at very reasonably prices.  Three examples would be the 5 CD sets by Joe Henderson  and Lee Morgan and Grant Green. Available on Amazon if like me you prefer to own.  Oh, and Stan Getz.  The list goes on.  

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carlsbad
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Rock and Roll disappeared.  Country morphed to something else.  Young musiciand think something called "hip hop" is musical.  

The change has been exacerbated by the demise of AM/FM radio along with records.  I think a lot of the people that would have been buying records casually in the past and supporting good music (you have to like something to pay for it) are now "settling" for what they can find on Pandora and they aren't really listening to what they want as much as what is provided on the station.  Somehow I think the ability for a listener to "vote" has escaped most of the over 30 listeners.  

So I think this results in more of the popular singers towing the line of what the marketing moguls think is popular and less "wow that's a surprisingly engaging song".  Could Kenny G or Herb Alpert become stars today?  (I pick those 2 as examples of instrumentalists who became popular on AM).

Jerry

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larsman
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Rock and Roll disappeared? News to me - I keep seeing new bands and hearing new music.

I do like some rap and hip-hop too, and I'm 71 years old.

I suppose a lot of country artists don't realize they morphed into something else, 'cause they still play country, which I've never liked. But old folks think it's musical. 🤣 

But I agree that popular music has changed considerably since the days of Herb Alpert and Kenny G (isn't he still popular among a certain demographic?), thank goodness. 

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