Looking for upgrade of Accuphase E-480


Hi

I have an Accuphase E-480 with B&W 803D3 speakers and Lumin T2 streamer/DAC. I spent many hours during the last year tuning my system with cables and placement. Although I am very happy with listening to well recorded/mixed tracks, I have got a problem listening to all the other tracks, that don't show an optimal sound image. The high frequencies often are still too present.

Since I have checked everything else (power supply, cables, placement, room etc.) I went to a store comparing the E-480 with other Accuphase Amps on the 803D4 speakers (I brought my cables and streamer). The E-5000 was wider in the mids and a bit smoother in the treble, but still too forward for me. I tried this one at home too.

The E-800 class A integrated amp was very smooth and soft compared to the E-480, but also less clear and detailed what I was missing. It was clear, that my ears wanted more, than my E-480 could bring, but also more than the E-800 and E-5000 could bring. It crossed the border of the integrated amps to the separates.

So I listened to the C-2850 with the A-75 class A amp. It was smooth and detailed, emotional and precise. The sound in the way I was looking for. A whole different league.

Since this is a very heavy, expensive and power consuming solution I want to get sure, if it is the right thing. I can only afford this when I buy used.

So did anybody compare different separate combos for the 803D3, that go in the direction of the C-2850/A-75? And how would you compare different options to the Accuphase? Is there something else I should try?

Please only comment, when you really heard other options on these speakers. The 803D3 are quite difficult to drive.

Thanks for your ideas! :)

edin123

I don't think your B&W speakers will sound good with bad recordings with anything but the very warmest amplifier. Your Accuphase will sound great on most recordings with Proac or Sonus Faber speakers, and they are still quite revealing.

Thanks. I know the Sonus Faber kind of speaker sound. This is not, what I am looking for. Too much "wooden" sound, too little resolution and 3D imaging for my taste.

I know, that a smoother sounding speaker will work smoother with the E-480. But I am looking for a high resolution, warm and smooth sound, as with the class A Accuphase combos and the B&W's. Did you hear that once?

I have read that with Accuphase , Tannoy speakers are the best.

And their aestetics are nice.

Thanks, but my question was more like:

Who has audibly compared different separates on the 803D3 (like Accuphase or Pass Labs etc.)

I am not in love with your speakers but I went from some very expensive separates to a Boulder 866 and can not believe how musical it is.  I have been a tube guy for the past 40+ years and the Boulder just gives me a huge smile on every listen.  Find a way to demo the Boulder 866.  I think it's what your looking for.