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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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Well, I guess a good engineer could put drivers and an amp inside a concrete block that weighs about 300 pounds. Doubt it would sell very well. And Vibration dampening systems ARE important under turntables at the very least, regardless of what you are playing said turntable through.

If and audiophile spends 50k on his turntable that weighs 300lb we could probably guess that this same audiophile will have some massive subs that would be equally impressive in putting out bass, why doesn’t all that bass energy affect the fidelity of the needle in the record groves? Sorry if this is a dumb question I don’t have much experience with turntables.

@lonemountain happy to participate today, glad you're enjoying.   @kota1 This thread is a relative newbies insult at the whole forum, so I have no problem with responding in kind. All of his equipment is (to me obviously) mid fi. There is nothing more to say. You love Genelecs? Great ! That is the whole point.   To me?  The whole line has always been mostly hype with a sound that lacks natural tonality, very processed. 1031's to present, same family sound. And yet if you love them that is all that matters. Speakers are like a romantic partner: if you’re happy, that’s all that matters and the rest of us should not critique another person’s place in the journey.  I am not critiquing anyone personally when I say "mid fi" as my journey is way down the rabbit hole. Speakers are a tool, for listening or for working, they are not an objective fact.  Arguing quality from specs or awards is very naive.

I guess I must have missed the perceived insult in the OP’s original question. I agree that there is a fundamental misunderstanding about active speakers. I think that if active speakers (or their benefits) were understood it would be useful when setting up budgets and rooms. I didn’t perceive the post that members here are inferior for not using them, YMMV. The OP even apologized for coming at a member, that was a standup reply, respectful I thought.

As for midfi I guess it all depends on your definition. I wish I had more midfi gear if we are talking about $35,000 Paradigm 9H (not to mention the matching CC and surrounds). I just can’t comprehend how this could be midfi, even if you have unlimited budget???
Let’s be clear, I love Paradigms (see my system), never used or heard a genelec so can’t comment.

As for your setup it is interesting and unfamiliar. I know you need to mix to a standard that sounds good on everything from $35K Paradigms to $35 ear buds.
I give you props for blazing the trail in unfamiliar territory going analog in mastering that will likely be replayed on digital systems. I do like a lot of the recordings mastered in analog in the fifties and sixties and I will look forward to "hearing" your content, literally, in my HT. If you have any playlists posted on tidal please share a link, thanks.

Love Genelec. Spent allot of time in studios and they were some of my favorites.

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