SACD & DVDA done?


It appears as though Blue Ray has all but put the nail in HDDVD's coffin. Will that end DVDA? Perhaps I'm missing something, but it appears as though even Sony is not including SACD on their Blue Ray players. Does that mean the end of SACD is soon to follow. I was sort of waiting to see which of these formats would win, even considered a Denon that could do both and HDCD. It now appears as though I should hold out for a Blue Ray player. Will Sony abandon SACD and hoist another hi rez audio format that is incompatible with older players on us. If Sony planned to continue to support SACD, you'd think they'd offer it on their Blue Ray players too, no?
unsound
One big problem with SACD is the producer's need to put out crap like three-channel hybrid or quasi-surround. Some of those do indeed decode well as 2-channel, but many end up being CD-level or worse. They're catering to the AV crowd.

DVD-A does that to a degree also, but a lesser degree. The beauty of DVD-A is that it's available to home-recordists and others that want to put out low volume, high quality music. Sony ruined SACD by trying to overcontrol the format.

Dave
It's been my experience that some surround SACDs sound better than their stereo layer.
I haven't tried an SACD in a PS3. I don't own one but have installed a few. They are generally a pain in the arse to use but some folks love them.
DC, it sounds like you are just a Sony hater. Many people disliked Sony from the beginning because they were considered an outsider upstart by the other Japanese companies. Sony has always done things a little differently than the other large Japanese industries and they upset tradition. But I myself am often bewildered by some of Sony's decisions.
Dcstep wrote: "One big problem with SACD is the producer's need to put out crap like three-channel hybrid or quasi-surround. Some of those do indeed decode well as 2-channel, but many end up being CD-level or worse. They're catering to the AV crowd."

Complete nonsense. First, there are many 2channel-only SACDs. Second, even on the multichannel ones, there is a requirement for a separate stereo SACD program. Third, most multichannel SACDs have real channels for surround, not synthetic ones.

So, what do you have against 2 channel SACD tracks? ;-)

Kal
01-24-08: Rwwear said:
"It's been my experience that some surround SACDs sound better than their stereo layer.
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DC, it sounds like you are just a Sony hater. Many people disliked Sony from the beginning because they were considered an outsider upstart by the other Japanese companies. Sony has always done things a little differently than the other large Japanese industries and they upset tradition. But I myself am often bewildered by some of Sony's decisions."

Good Lord, I'm not a Sony hater. I just resent when they try to "tie-up" a format by restricting its accessibility and usefulness. Apple is another that tries to control us and ruins otherwise good products. I'm more in your camp of being bewildered by their stupidity.

Anybody want a Beta video tape machine???? I've got one somewhere....

History repeats itself, again and again and again...

Dave
Beta was the better format and up until recently you could still get a Beta machine. I also have a Lasersdisc player and an 8 Track machine.