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Streamer-DAC vs Seperates

I know this has been discussed before but I’m wondering if anything has changed with streamer-DAC combo boxes from Weiss, DCS, etc.  

I think the answer likely changes depending on how much you are spending.  Of course separates will win if funds are unlimited. Sadly, that’s not reality for most.  So, if one were to spend let’s say $15k or $20k on streaming and DAC capabilities, would it be better sound if divide those funds and buying separates, or just go for one of the combo options now?

I’m not sure why, but my system’s digital chain is the only area of my system that I didn’t obsessively scrutinize with demos before deciding.  I’m actually happy with my digital chain, but then again I have no experience with anything else, unlike the rest of my gear for which I’ve tested everything I possibly could.  I started by adding the Gryphon Diablo 300 DAC module to my D300 integrated.  Then I saw many liked Innuos so at the time I just sprung for a Zenith Mk3.  Later, I added an Innuos PhoenixUSB reclocker, and a PhoenixNET Ethernet switch.  So all in all I guess my digital component chain is worth about $15k, excluding the PhoenixNET network switch and excluding my Audioquest Hurricane power and Diamond USB and Ethernet cables.  Again, happy with the sound but really feel a bit embarrassed that I have no basis of comparison!

Back to my original question - if spending $15-$20k on streaming and DAC capabilities, would separates be better, worse, or the same as the popular combined options in this range? 

 

nyev
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fuzztone
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They would be definitely better, worse or the same.

nyev OP
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I doubt that very much!  The chances that the options would be the same are incredibly low…

so…. Better or worse?  Or maybe no one has any real world experience directly comparing.  Was hoping someone had done this comparison and had some takeaways to share!

david_ten
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There is steady movement towards "all in one solutions." Integrated network transport/players plus DAC options are not only plentiful, but are dominating this space.

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audphile1
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I really like my Bricasti M3 with integrated network player. I use Roon and did an A/B comparison between streaming with lumin u1 mini into the M3 via Audience USB cable and Roon with the M3 alone and preferred the M3. Sold the Lumin. 
What does this tell you? That it all depends. I wouldn’t bet on the same outcome if I had run the same comparison using something like Grimm, higher end Aurender or Taiko extreme. 
A built in network player isn’t an extremely expensive option and is even a default with some higher end DACs. 
Trying is the only way to know.

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