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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@thespeakerdude , No it is not speakerdude. I measure everything I do and since when are line array characteristics just theory?  They are very easily demonstrated. There are very few hard boundaries is acoustics, everything has a slope. For all intents and purposes line arrays beam severely in what is usually the vertical axis which is why you see them curved at stadium concerts. What is most important to me is that the subwoofers match the main speaker's line array attenuation characteristics as related to distance. 

My audio room was also purposely designed for audio. There is not specific back wall. The room is open to the rest of the house eliminating to most significant reflection. The deviations that remain at the listening positions are easily managed by room control. Right at this moment I have three. You can have a listening position wherever you plant the measurement microphone. 

@mijostyn Happy Christmas.

Oh and I really do not care about your opinion. Do you feel better though? 

Have a wonderful Holiday and I hope you find inner peace.  

 

@mijostyn feel free to put your opinions of how acoustics work above actual knowledge. It may make you feel better, but it will not help your understanding. You may have a basic conceptual knowledge of line arrays, but you are both not applying it correctly to your situation and not understanding that your situation does not apply.

You may want to dig a little deeper into line arrays and understand you are neither operating free space, nor at frequencies high enough that the side walls result in a virtual extension of your array:

https://www.merlijnvanveen.nl/en/component/phocadownload/category/3-documents?download=76:line-arrays-theory-fact-and-myth

No need to rewrite what others have spent a good amount of time already explaining. René knows his stuff. You may want to read his comments in other spots on DBA and plane wave in a tube.
 

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/analytical-analysis-room-gain.23211/

 

For the last 4 days I've stayed up two nights rewiring and rearranging 3 sound systems in my home, my theater and both systems in my listening room. You guys have inspired me to make everything sound better. 

I've come to the conclusion that I don't care about being accurate with my systems that are for enjoyment but I do want the most accurate system I can get for my professional mixing system. There is such a big difference between the two in terms of sound it's startling. You can't have both accurate and magical for now because the technology doesn't exist yet IMO.

Yesterday I herd a choral group from a local high school sing Carol of the Bells with only piano the singers were positioned around the auditorium no PA system, the sound was perfect. It was so beautiful, of course I was thinking about the acoustics and the phasing between the singer that were close to me and the ones that were farther away, it was beautiful and so far above anything I've ever heard coming from microphones or speakers. 

My entertainment listening systems are hissy run by tube amps and sound magical there is no question about the depth the warmth and the enjoyment. My professional system is quiet sounds articulate edgy and naked, very few things look good naked. 

This idea does have to do with powered speakers and technologies that make playing back music more accurate, until we can get microphones, speakers, electronics, and the processes that your brain goes through when translating sound to music there will be a detachment between playing back sound and music. OMG maybe I'll totally give up and go out and buy a record player.