Well, we were going along fine until the usual suspects entered picture. @fredrik222 you continue to mention only John in your attacks, try out Ed Meitner for some elucidation on jitter and clocks.
And so we have the usual, usual argument that what many of us hear is delusional, don't trust your senses, all is snake oil comments. What these people are saying is experiential learning, knowledge is not to be trusted. Their arguments are based on pedantic/reductionist/totalitarian logic, the idea there is this set of 'biblical' facts that are simply irrefutable. There are no more known unknowns, every single fact has been investigated, no point to further investigation, the truth has been arrived at, PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION. This being the case, we are now considered fools, tools of high end audio industry, and worse, we are now considered heretics. Always notice they love to use the word, 'educate', yes they are the high priests of truth, we need to be educated, or perhaps whipped and bullied into compliance.
And so here we are at Audiogon forum, along with whatsbest and audiophilestyle forums, all homes to those who still believe in experiential learning. We are individuals that HEAR differences, good, bad and indifferent with all kinds of audio equipment. Some of us want to know why we hear those differences and others just enjoy the ride. It is curious why the 'truthbearers' visit these forums. Is it to provoke, laugh, deride, oh forgot, educate.
Now, to give the 'truthbearer' the benefit of the doubt. I can think of three reasons for their 'beliefs'. First is they never heard a system capable of delivering sense of real, live performers in room, their own systems compete with or beat the best they've heard so assumption is this is best one can do. Second is they have heard systems superior to their own, but simply live in denial this is so. Denial would come from having heard a system that was tweaked and tuned, since these tweaks and tunes CAN'T work they DON'T work. Third reason would be physically based, the idea not all of our listening senses are equal, the brain/ear complex may be less acute in some people, they can't hear the differences we hear with audio systems. I can relate to this as my visual/brain complex must not be as advanced or acute as some in that I can't differentiate between many of these high end televisions. I've been though a number of them, I can't see much of difference between many models, price tiers, they all kind of look the same to me. I also read these articles that explain how to calibrate for best picture, my choices never correlate to these calibrations! So many more tweaks available, stands, power cords, etc. I have tried any number and can't really see difference.
In any case this is my last post in retort to what I suppose we call 'objectivists'. I quit the cable, power, etc arguments some time ago, this is last for network.
I'm not trying to 'educate' or enlighten anyone, simply suggestions for improving network that may or may not work for people. Others here doing the same thing. We all don't expect everyone's going to find our particular network paths to be supreme, the open minded discover for themselves best path forward. This doesn't bother me in the least, I'm not some guru, I learn far more than I teach. I've done the NO TWEAK, NO TUNE thing, didn't work for me, seems to bother those with need to be the head supremo.