Discuss The Viv Lab Rigid Arm

@alan60 , I am totally and completely comfortable in my position. My goal is to keep others from making the same mistake. You obviously are resistant to buyer's remorse. I would not buy a Viv arm like I would not buy a tricycle all terrain vehicle. The only difference is the Viv is not dangerous. But please do not feel bad. You are in very good company. In my youth I purchased some seriously stupid equipment like the Transcriptors Vestigial Tonearm, live and learn. 

People have to get off this listening thing. You can not trust what other people hear because there is way too much variability in system and listening performance. Unless you are very well seasoned you can not even trust yourself. This is also not about music. We all love music or we would not be doing this. This is about system performance and design issues that make for a competent device. I am not going to beat around the bush when I see an obviously defective design. Because some people think it sounds good means absolutely nothing to me. 

what you think you hear is meaningless.

People have to get off this listening thing.

Just asking for a friend, but why, actually, do you listen to music at all if those quotes from your posts are serious?

Dogberry, The distortion caused by the Viv are is easily measured and if your system is really good and you know what you are listening to is quite audible.

Most of my music listening is done in my shop in loud background fashion using mid Fi equipment I don't mind getting choked with dust. Yup, I like listening to the big system better but I am enjoying the music either way. I can't be in the listening position and make furnisher at the same time. It is also a very bad idea for an old person to get stuck in a seat.

What? It's AUDIBLE? Listen to yourself, if you care to believe in your ears. We are not allowed to believe in our ears, right? I'm quoting an authority here.

rauliruegas

... In reality the issue is not " dogmatic theorists " but common sense founded in the Löfgren theory where he proved through scientific equation calculations ...

The dogamtic theorists are those who understand such geometry - such as you and @mijostyn - and then assume without listening what the net sonic affect will be of those arms that defy it.

Don’t get me wrong - I’m all for pivoted arms with "proper" offset and I have no plans to change from my SME V anytime soon, if ever. But I’ve been around audio too long to dismiss a product based solely on paper specs.

As for the Viv in particular, I have other issues with it, the greatest being its mount, not its underhung geometry. But I haven’t heard it so unlike some of the armchair theorists here, I can’t pass judgment on it.