Can anyone reading this thread tell me how to get a better system for the same $ with a passive setup???
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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.
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When you have a LOT of speakers in a passive system you have a LOT of speaker cables. Not just in the runs but in the speaker crossovers as well. Those speaker cables can choke the signal. Why is it that some 8 foot pairs of speaker cables cost more than zip cord? To "unchoke" that signal. That can get crazy expensive if you run high quality cables to many speakers over distances, like in a surround setup. Active speakers eliminate that potential choke point while putting speaker cable budget in your pocket to spend elsewhere. Has anyone noticed that a matched system of processors and active speakers also gets rid of the confusion surrounding your choices that the OP mentions? |
OP, you mentioned you have a budget for an upgrade. I have been holding off for a new thread but may as well get started. I don’t see a weak link in any of your components. Paradigm/Lyngdorf/Anthem/PS Audio is all top shelf. Is there a problem in: A) Component synergy/mismatches? B) Room/system interaction? C) You are a tough customer? After being around studios and studio budgets I would get that. From your pics my guess is room/system interaction but IDK for sure.
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@Kota1 Lots of great points one very striking one that goes right along with the OP is speaker cables. If they are a component and worth the price many people are willing to pay then eliminate them and go with active speakers. Many people who have decades of experience in listening to sound systems do think speaker cables do make a difference ok then why not listen to them and eliminate the cables we then that forces class D amps, Peter Lyngdorf has a speaker test with his D amps, you turn up the amp to 100% you put your ear next to the speaker driver if you can hear it buzz you don't have to pay for the system, 137db dynamic range is extraordinary in Steinway Lyngdorf systems. P Lyngdorf is a walking vault of patents for class D amps and his equipment may be an exception but it does mean that class D amps and 3.2kw power supplies are for real.
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OK, you got a Lyngdorf processor and PS Audio amps, the toobs are high maintenance and nickel and diming you on replacements. Lyngdorf amps are of the two channel variety (SDA-2400) and at $2400 that works out to $1200 a channel. Your atmos rig has 11 channels so is it worth $1200 x 11 channels= $13,000+ to add 6 of those amps to your stack and hit the bid on the toobs? If you miss your toobs get a tube based headphone amp. This one has a preamp out so you could use it as a 2 ch preamp as well. You could hook the RCA out from the Manley to the RCA in of the SDA 2400 and the XLR out of your processor to the XLR in of the SDA 2400. You can switch between the inputs on the back and that amp would be driving your Paradigm 9H's.
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