Power conditioner wire gauge? Serious issue

@mastering92

Thank you.  You have answered your own question.  As you say, power conditioners need power to function and this power has to come from the wall, therefore reducing the power that is passed on to the audio power amplifiers.  Also as you say, the amount of power consumed by the conditioner will vary according to its design.  All I am saying is that the net power leaving the conditioner needs to be comfortably sufficient to power the amplifier.

We are in agreement.

@clearthinker 

Right on! Thanks for your response.

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All power conditioners steal power.

@clearthinker

This isn't entirely correct. A good power conditioner will do nothing of the sort.

Many 'conditioners' are passive devices and so probably do limit current (and so have a voltage drop) but if the conditioner is an actual bona fide conditioner, it will not only clean up the power but it will also insure that the output voltage does not sag and current (up the limit of the conditioner) will not be limited.

There are very few examples of actual power conditioners in high end audio. PS Audio probably makes one of the better ones out there.

There is a company called Elgar that made real power conditioners a long time ago (they got out of that market in the early 1980s). Their conditioners had guaranteed distortion specs and regulated the AC line voltage. They made some that could handle 28 Amps! This means your entire room could have clean power. If you run across an Elgar it will likely need refurbishment- new filter capacitors in its power supplies and so on. They are built for 24/7 service and use a sophisticated system to insure that the AC they produce is clean with no voltage drop.

Buy a Kill-a-watt meter and put your mind at ease. You'll most likely find that you are pulling way less amps than the wire can handle and have a very high MoS.

Several years ago I measured my entire system through one of these and was just under 5 amps full tilt with mono amps and tube preamp, etc.

P3 P4400 Kill A Watt Electricity Usage Monitor (amazon.com)

@atmaspheres30 

Thank you.  I know you have knowledge of these things.

Since the action of conditioning the power must consume some of it, the conditioners of which you speak presumably have power supplies of their own to make good the loss.

You speak of 'no voltage drop'/  Agreed, we don't want voltage drop, the power supply companies give us enough of that (entirely free of charge).  But neither do we want capacity drop that limits the watts the audio amp can draw.

All this can be easily accommodated if the power conditioner manufacturer publishes accurate measurements of the voltage and kW output for given inputs.