Network optimization for serious streamers


In my ongoing experiments, now going on seven years, with network optimization for streaming I've discovered a number of optimizations that should work with any ethernet ISP.

 

I've tried a variety of ethernet cables, modems, routers, switches, FMC, ethernet filters, the following is what I've found to be most effective optimizations.

 

I'll start with ISP quality and speed. Recently I discovered 500mbps to be preferable to 300mbps. Along with upgrade in speed, modem capable of 1gb service replaced 600mbps, both have Broadcom chips and powered by same lps. Can't say which more responsible for improvement, speed or modem, presume speed has at least some role in ping time. As for ISP, there is importance in ISP server geographic location to you, shorter distances  means lower ping time. For information as to how ping time affects jitter-https://www.fusionconnect.com/speed-test-plus/ping-jitter-test

 

Now for modems,  modem close to audio system is most favorable, extending coax cable preferable to long ethernet cable. Coax more resistant to rfi and closer positioning to system means one can more easily afford top quality ethernet cable for modem to router connection. The modem should use Broadcom chipset vs. inferior Intel Puma, Broadcom chipset has lower jitter vs the Intel. Modem should be powered via external lps using quality DC and AC cables, lps to power conditioner for ultimate performance.

 

Following close positioning of modem to audio system, router should also be placed near modem in service of same advantage of making highest quality ethernet cable more affordable, in this case, modem to router and router to switches, streamers and NAS. Router should be powered with lps, this lps should be able to provide more amps than router requires in service of providing greater reliability, having lps with reserves of amperage means lps runs cooler, heat is enemy of reliability, longevity. As with modem, quality dc, ac cables and connection to power conditioner.

 

The next finding is new to me, provides very meaningful upgrade to streaming sound quality. Noise from wifi, injected both internally to router and externally with routers sitting close to audio systems has long been a concern to me. I have quality Trifield meter which measures rfi, router with operational wifi manufacture obscenely high levels of rfi, rfi is noise, noise is enemy of streaming at level we're talking about here. And its very likely the more wifi devices one has in home the higher the levels of rfi produced. This noise is then injected into following cables and streaming equipment. One may convince themselves FMC totally isolates this noise, and while correct, it doesn't mitigate the noise and masking going on within router. The only way to eliminate this noise is turning off wifi. And then, how to provide wifi for the many  wifi devices we have at home? The answer is to connect a second router to the primary router. The primary router will only provide ethernet for streamers, switches and/or NAS in audio system, also for the second router.  Second router provides wifi for the home, this scheme keeps vast majority of rfi out of audio system streaming chain. My own measurements find rfi significantly diminished in primary router, more than mulitiples of ten times lower vs wifi enabled. This was seamless install with the Netgear routers I'm using. There may also be value in provisioning higher quality routers. My new primary router, Netgear XR1000 is marketed as a gamer router, claims of lower ping time, latency, jitter vs other routers. Since my old router, Netgear RS7000 didn't have means to monitor ping time I can't provide evidence of this claim. Whatever the case, my XR1000 ping time test measurements are as follows, 25.35ms highest, 16.50ms lowest, this is A+ measurements against objective criteria. Ping time under load is download 25.93ms, upload 37.34ms, idle 17.31ms, this rates as A. My speed of 565gbps rates B grade, likely need 1gb service to get A here. At to how this all pertains to sound quality, adding up the upgrade in ISP speed and the off loading of wifi is without a doubt one of the most substantial, if not most substantial network upgrades I've experienced. While I  long considered my setup as having a vanishing low noise floor, with this setup I heard a new level of vanishing if such a thing is possible. Even more astounding was a more analog like presentation, while I wasn't aware of even the slightest digital presentation prior, this upgrade certainly exposed it was indeed there. It seems logical to conclude there has been some lowering of jitter here.

 

And then we come to the ethernet filter. I suppose audiophile switches can be considered as one, then we have actual filters such as Network Acoustics Muon, my JCAT Net XE and others. I continue to believe these necessary even with the all measures above.

 

Optical conversion is also valid approach post router. While I found generic FMC somewhat effective, at this point I prefer ethernet. On the other hand I've not yet tried optimizing a fiber solution, for example two Sonore OpticalModules, both powered by lps, further upgraded with Finisar optical transceivers.

 

Assuming one has high resolving audio and streaming systems the above network optimizations should provide for substantial sound quality improvements. In my system, perception of performers in room has been taken to a new level of intimacy, meaning a more emotional connection to the performers and performance.

 

At this point, I consider network has been fully optimized, the only upgrade I'm aware of would be ISP upgrade to 1gb.

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@erik_squires

"If you are using Ethernet in the home, and you have ANY packet loss or retransmissions you have a serious issue."

Would you clarify what you mean? Occasionally when listening to Qobuz over my 100% wired ethernet the music will pause. I have come to accept this as packet/packets that have gotten delayed, maybe taking a left turn into Russia encountering the KGB. If I wait patiently, sometimes up to a minute, the packets will appear and the music resumes automatically without further glitches. Thanks.

Would you clarify what you mean? Occasionally when listening to Qobuz over my 100% wired ethernet the music will pause. I have come to accept this as packet/packets that have gotten delayed, maybe taking a left turn into Russia encountering the KGB.

Hey @singingg - I meant that within the boundaries of your home Local Area Network (LAN) there should be zero packet loss, corruption or delay. Well, at least under 1 millisecond ping times from any device to any other device. However, as you are imagining, we have no control over the Wide Area Network (WAN) outside our homes. The quality of service between Qobuz and your home is always a variable condition.

My point was that once a packet is in your home it should be re transmitted nearly instantly and without error to any other point in your home if it’s on Ethernet, and if in an isolated Wifi pretty close to it.

A good streamer will buffer several seconds (30 is not unreasonable) of music from a streaming source to mask most short Internet interruptions. If the Internet goes down for 5 seconds (as an example) the streamer can attempt to reconnect in the background while feeding the DAC from cache so we aren't even aware something happened. If you can adjust the buffer size/length it may be worth doing.

Hello guys. Any gals?

1. As is often the case, a system improvement can create wonderful repercussions throughout a system. I reported removing the optical filter from my network. In doing so I removed two FMCs, a FO cable, LPS and PC. I would like to use that LPS in my system, if I could find a 9v SMPS. After a couple of days I was on my hands and knees peering at the PS for my Origin Live motor controller on my mono TT and discovered a 9v SMPS! Installing the LPS resulted in what I would describe as refined pacing, bringing profound realness/presence to the musicians.

Inspired, I knew that my Project Speed Box S2 motor controller, used on my stereo table, had a SMPS. Last year I had retired an Sbooster LPS when I found one that performed better for a phono preamp. I tried it on that controller and the sonic impact was unbelievable. Now I will have to listen to my 6000 LPs all over again!

I love it when I get lucky!

2. I have been mulling over the phenomenon of ethernet noise. I reported that I am not finding any. Noise is our enemy because it results in deformity, masking of silences, colorations. My streaming sounds identical or better in direct comparison to physical media. When I listen to my network there are no computers or any other tasks in operation other than delivery of music packets, because I have no unruly teenagers or recalcitrant significant others to deal with. Now if I had a bank of computers crunching the stock, bond, commodity markets, and FOREX, with the goal of getting the bucks for a $7-figure system, operating on the same network, then I would expect finding music listening impossible. Isn’t this the same as those who find listening at night an improvement when the electric grid is quieter?

3. Extrapolating on this experience, I now KNOW I have to replace the SMPS with LPS on the ONT and router from my ISP. A jump in performance awaits me. I have picked out the models and I am searching searching for a good price. Patience, patience.

Now if I had a bank of computers crunching the stock, bond, commodity markets, and FOREX, with the goal of getting the bucks for a $7-figure system, operating on the same network, then I would expect finding music listening impossible. Isn’t this the same as those who find listening at night an improvement when the electric grid is quieter?

I don’t think that this has much to do with Ethernet propagated noise as much as AC line noise. I try really hard to keep my computer items outside of my clean, filtered power zone.

I also use Ethernet isolators but mainly for surge, and a little for noise. Cheap peace of mind.

It seems the best solution is to wire your house with Ethernet ports, then turn wireless off permanently in the modem/router no?

Honestly an impossible task for me. If you live near other homes you also have to contend with their Wifi signals. The number of wifi only devices I have in the home has blossomed:

  • Fire alarms
  • Thermostats
  • Lights, etc.

I do however keep my streamer’s Wifi disabled to minmize the RF/EMI right next to the analog gear.