More Bass


I recently purchase a pair of Legacy Signature speakers from an on-line retailer. I purchased them unheard, but I did my due diligence in researching them and I would have thought with the 7" woofers and a rated frequency response of 22-30K hz, there would have been a bit more bass (although there is a couple of tunes I have played where there is some bass that is really deep and sounds all garbled, very weird, but I just won’t listen to those songs,I guess).

I bought floor standers so I wouldn’t have to deal with the hassle that goes along with setting up subwoofers, also with all the space they take up and the negative WAF that goes along with them.

They are a little bright on the top end, but I’ll blame that on my room, it probably needs more treating, just limited on funds at the moment.

If I thought I needed subwoofers, I'm thinking I might have bought a pair of Fritz bookshelfs and a pair of subs, for probably less than the Sigs.

The price of Legacy subs is over the top for me, so do you think there is any way to get more bass without subs or are there any subs that are a bit smaller, that might do the trick as I am pretty limited on space (and funds as previously mentioned!) Thanks

 

 

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I didn't except so many great responses, very informative and lots of good ideas, thank you!

I have reached out to the manufacturers and am awaiting their response.

@blisshifi - the room is 24' x 15' with a 12' vaulted ceiling (the long ways). Then there is a kitchen to the left of the speaker, so the room is L-shaped. Drapes cover the window to the left which run pretty well the whole length of the wall. The manual says 1 - 3 feet off the back wall, so being a multi-function room, it's pretty hard to get the speakers more than 1 foot out. They are 6 1/2' apart, slightly toed in and I sit about 9 feet away. So, there is 8' feet of space behind me.

The room does suck, but acoustic treatment are expensive and lack WAF. I'd hate to spend a bunch of money on them and still have a base problem, so I like the idea of a couple of small subs, or better yet the room correction suggestion.

@erik_squires - thanks Eric, for some reason when I click on the link you provide (as with some other links here) I don't get redirected. Any tips?

 

 

 

 

@steakster @daledeee1 - thanks, I will put on my walking shoes when I get home tonight!

@erik_squires - not sure why the link doesn’t work, but I did find the article by search. This is for the Legacy Focus SE which is the model above mine. 

It's true that the optimal place for your speakers is often not the optimal place to have good bass.The Amroc room calculator shows you instantly which bass frequencies are causing the problem. A couple of subs can be unobtrusive close to the wall in their optimal spots. One of my subs that can't be tucked away behind furniture has a cloth cover that blends with the wall.It's an option to think about anyway.

I would agree with @hickamore on the bass performance of the Signature SE and the benefit of using subs to supplement. I have previously owned both the Focus SE and Aeris. In both cases, while they let out big sound, they did not offer the benefits that quality, properly integrated subs do. I eventually moved away from the larger speakers and into better fitting speakers for the room accommodated by subs. Not only do the subs handle any missing bass information, but it also widens and deepens the soundstage and cleans up room modes and the full frequency spectrum, resulting in additional clarity and an improved performance across the board. Though I moved on from the Aeris being my speaker, I have since become a dealer and now am an official Legacy Audio installer. With that in mind, I have a custom pair of Signature SE coming for my floor in a week or two, as I realize it is more than enough to fill the space when properly integrated with subs, as demonstrated by a customer who traded in their Legacy Classic HD a few months back. Even that was enough in my room when partnered by two subs.

Measurements will also be very helpful, as is walking around the room as others suggest. But especially with the opening to the kitchen on the left side, subs and proper integration will be your best friend in this scenario.

Also, the problem is not with your amp, so disregard anyone who says so. The CODA No.8 is stable down to 2 ohms easily, and Legacy used to use CODA amps for their speakers prior to making their own with ICE modules.