What can beat Wilson XVX for less money?

Estellon, Gauder Akustik, Zellaton, Stenheim, MBL Radialstrahlers, German Physiks. Look up the respective models.

Hello to all,

I think the price debate is wrong, it is not the right way to look for the materials that fit us. 

It's not about beating Wilson or Magico and consort, for less or more, it has no interest. 
It's good to read the opinions of Jay, Jeff, Paul,..., but nothing beats a personal listening.
Everyone should be able to find what they need according to their means.

You have to start with the basics and ask yourself the right questions:

in which room we will listen to our Hifi system
what are its dimensions, 
what acoustics has this room 
what is my auditory sensitivity,
what are our musical tastes
what emotion I am looking for

Any purchase of this type of material requires hours of listening, days of testing, change: cables, electronics, sources, positioning, sector, etc. ...

It's a very long process, there is no absolute truth, everything is a question of sensitivity that is specific to each of us.
Everything is very subjective in the Hifi, there are so many parameters to take into account.

I am sure that there are several brands of speakers that are as powerful and musical that will meet our expectations.

You also need to find a dealer who will listen to you and point you in the right direction, but that's another debate.

Jeff

Design Audio

Estelon Forza $174k vs Wilson XVX $329k

I have auditioned Estelon but not XVX but I trust Stereophile reviewers’ ears.

Quote: "When the Wilson Audio Specialties XVXes were installed here almost a year ago, Christy Moore’s "So Do I" from the album This Is the Day provided a benchmark for placement. Moore’s voice could sound hooded or lacking weight in one spot, muffled in another spot, or just right, with clearly articulated lyrics in yet another spot. With the Forzas, I almost couldn’t make Moore’s voice sound less than ideal as I moved them inch by inch toward and away from the front wall. The touch of artificial reverb carefully tucked behind his voice was apparent wherever the speakers sat, perhaps more clearly revealed through the Forzas than through the XVXes. This proved true at both high and low SPLs." end quote ~ Michael Fremer | Oct 22, 2021, Stereophile

Thanks so much. Some awesome discussion and suggestions.

@lanx0003 Very interesting!!!

I bet the Clarisys Audio Minuet Panel speakers with 6 stacked REL Acoustics Line Array Subs would blow away the Wilson Audio XVX’s BUT let’s not start a WAR here.. OK 😉😈😈

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0IgdeSheak