Paul McGowan gets asked about rotary subs.


Paul McGowan of PS Audio has for years posted frequent (daily?) videos on YouTube in which he answers questions sent in by people from the world over. I just watched one in which he answers a question sent by a guy in India, inquiring as to why rotary subs are not more popular. Paul gets around to completely answering that question, but before doing so says this:

 

"The Rotary Sub was invented by a guy named Bruce Thigpen, and Bruce is a VERY (Paul’s emphasis, not mine) creative inventor who used to have a company---maybe he still does---called Eminent Technologies (sic. It’s actually named Eminent Technology). And Eminent Technologies, they made some GREAT (again, Paul’s emphasis) loudspeakers. They were---if I remember right---they were planar, or electrostatic---I think they were planars, they weren’t electrostatics, but they were REALLY (Paul again) good. And I don’t know what ever happened to that, but I DO know that Bruce figured out a way to make a subwoofer that could go well below what normal subwoofers do."

 

But this post is not about the Eminent Technology TRW-17 Rotary Subwoofer (there aren’t rotary "subwoofers", there is only one Rotary Subwoofer, the product of ET alone), it is about Eminent Technology itself. I mean geez, if Paul McGowan doesn’t know if Eminent Technology is still making planar loudspeakers, just how low IS the visibility of the company?!

To set the record straight: though Paul differentiates between a "planar" and an "electrostatic", while not all planars are electrostatics, all electrostatics are planars. I routinely see Magnepans referred to as planars (by Steve Guttenberg, for instance), which they of course are. But so are electrostatics. When Paul and Steve say planar, they are speaking of planar-magnetic loudspeakers. Both Magnepan and Eminent Technology make them.

 

The Eminent Technolgy LFT-8 planar-magnetic loudspeaker was introduced in 1989/90, and remains in production today. It has gone though a few revisions over the past thirty-three years: in 2007 an improved woofer replaced the original, with a change to it’s nomenclature: the LFT-8a. In 2015 an improved tweeter replaced the original, the new model designation being LFT-8b.

The LFT-8b remains available, and there is also a new version of the LFT-8: the 8c. The 8c consists of the same planar-magnetic panel as the 8b (which contains the midrange---180Hz up to 10kHz---and tweeter---10kHz and above---drivers), but with the monopole woofer of the 8b (for frequencies 180Hz and below) replace with a "gradient" dipole woofer (still a sealed enclosure, but with a 6.5" rear woofer added to the 8" in the front), which simply bolts on in place of the monopole woofer enclosure. Also included with the 8c is a power amp for the woofers, and DSP for the low-pass x/o filters for the woofers, time-alignment of the panels with the woofers, and equalization.

The LFT-8b retails for $3200, the 8c $4500, shipping in the U.S.A. included.

 

Magnepans are commonly discussed and owned (I own a pair), but the Eminent Technology LFT-8 remains virtually unknown (I also own a pair of the LFT-8b). Why is that? It has received rave reviews (REG in TAS, cudos from VPI’s Harry Weisfeld---who characterized the midrange of the LFT-8b as "the best I have ever heard", a number of reviews in the UK hi-fi mags), yet remains virtually unknown to the vast majority of audiophiles. I know ET has few dealers and does no advertising, but still.....

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Interesting subject. Can think of a few things that might have slowed ET down.

1. In their beginning years Magnepan partnered with Audio Research a lot. Not a bad company to be associated with.

2. ET went hybrid with planar/cone woofer. People might prefer running Maggie’s with sub.

3. IMHO ET acquired a very tweeky reputation. The air tonearm was rough to keep working. Friend was always fiddling with it. Noisey Air pump had to be located in another room. I remember a home-made air filter, built into a milk jug, to reduce air turbulence. The system also had to be routinely purged of condensation and cleaned. The only arm I remember being as big of a pain was the Souther linear tracker. The rotary woofer is also way out. Bruce is very smart, but might need to pay more attention to convenience.

Often see the argument about ET speakers having less distortion than Magnepan. ET has magnets in front of the driver, causing diffraction. So which distortion is worse? Does the ET woofer have less distortion than a Magneplanar bass panel? Might depend on frequency range and volume. Would like to hear the ET speakers.

Thanks,

aldnorab

 

Nice article, thanks. Answered my question.
 

I’ve always been interested in the ET speakers, barely missed a preowned pair once.

@wsrrsw , as soon as I followed your link, I *L'd*....

Upon reading our OPs' opening statement and his desire for 41hz, the LFT 8s' seem like the rational choice, But ...

There's always the '$ No Object' crowd....*G*  And I wish them well, and hope you've got the space for the Trw-17, and the more power to you.

You'll need it...;)

I remember reading that same article back in '10; the 'pitch-shifting blades' instantly reminded me of 'prop wash' from light aircraft, hearing the 'pitch shift' as the prop is adjusted....having grown up the son of one who worked for Douglas Aircraft in SoCA....

Novel use of the tech; not for the average HT, no....😏

....though it does start to edge into 'He Who Need Not Be Named' sort of turf, what with concrete walls for drivers and an astounding level of confidence in the quality of his hearing and its' perfection beyond us mere mortals...

...and at the cost of the rotary... What if you didn't like it? *cringe*L*

WTH would it cost Now, given the improvements in 'circuit magic', acoustic materials and the app of active room eq, etc., ad near-infinitum....?

Reality...what a concept...*sheesh*L*