Kumza Stabi S or Rega P10 ??


Looking for some commentary. Narrowed my search down to a few remaining tables, and these two are of interest. Wondering if anyone out there owns or has owned either and can comment? 

jc51373

The P10 is not a warm or weighty sounding turntable. It sounds a little bright, and quite analytical. I found I preferred the P8, which had a fuller, warmer, and more natural sound, although gave up a litte bit of detail and drama compared with the P10. The Hana is a warm sounding cartridge, so what you are hearing is completely attributable to the turntable.

 

I think was working through the break in with the cartridge, I underestimated that apparently. Things are sound superb. Table and Cart are a lovely combination so far. Warm, tight bass, smooth, and super detailed but delicately detailed. 

I've had the P8 and P10 together in my system with the same cartridge for a lengthy period and the P10 is better all around. Not significant, but just better in every aspect. 

I can't disagree more with rossb but we all hear thing differently. I can only go by my experience and the handful of friends who also heard the comparison and all agreed the P10 is overall better. Not bright, not analytical, but retrieves all the music as it was recorded. Yes, it will present bad pressings as such, it's not hiding anything with a warm blanket. 

Give your cartridge time to break in, as well as the table. It's not really fair to give an immediate evaluation, especially on a new cartridge. I'm glad you are starting to experience the difference!

@dbagstrick 

thank you, great advice. I am reserving judgement from now until I feel its run-in. I'd describe the table a neutral, compared to my last table anyway (Mofi Ultradeck) which had a warmer presentation overall. I do love the tone arm on this table, it's so beautifully designed. My one peck at it so far is this damn merino wool mat they use sticking to my records! Not all, but some I need to destat. I might trade it out for a Stein mat anyway. 

I will say this, the Cart I am using (umami Red) definitely sounds better than the MSB Premier DAC I had for years and sold recently, so there's that. I have zero complaints on the price of the Umami Red, in fact they could charge more. 

@jc51373  Nice cartridge for sure! I've read some really positive things about that and other hana carts. I am using the Apheta 3 as it was designed using the Rega tonearm and it's set and forget. But I've used other manufacture carts in the past such as you are doing with great results (Lyra is one example).

Do you clean your records? I found my VPI 16.5 has reduced if not all together gotten rid of the static cling.