We should reject hard-to-drive speakers more often


Sorry I know this is a bit of a rant, but come on people!!

Too many audiophiles find speakers which are hard to drive and... stick with them!

We need to reject hard-to-drive speakers as being Hi-Fi. Too many of us want our speakers to be as demanding as we are with a glass of wine. "Oh, this speaker sounds great with any amplifier, but this one needs amps that weigh more than my car, so these speakers MUST sound better..."

Speakers which may be discerning of amplifier current delivery are not necessarily any good at all at playing actual music. 

That is all.

erik_squires

This thread got seriously above my IQ this page, I've been able to play in waters previously too deep because my family took care of me in their passing and I was living within my means before that. Anyhow I learned the hard way about how dull and lifeless a pair of speakers can sound without enough juice. 

 

Here's where I get confused and I hope somebody can explain it in simple terms. Why does huge power matter when I'm listening between .5-5 watts? My speakers sounded dull and lifeless until I turned the volume past 90 db so I swap out my 300wpc and replace with a couple mc 611's and suddenly low volumes sound dynamic? Shouldn't any amp have power to spare at 1 watt?  I've shipped several very highly regarded speakers out because 250 wpc wasn't enough to 'wake them up'. I only mentioned the mac model because IDK if output transformers on a SS amp are a factor in my question.

@steve59 

https://youtu.be/AhB8uL12gtk

this may help...

... also don't confuse input sensitivity of an amplifier with its power output

@erik_squires Wrote:

There’s a reason JBL professional drivers are so expensive, and one of the main reasons that is that they are built specifically to avoid thermal compression even at constant power levels that would make most audiophile systems weep.

100% correct! See articles below: Power compression Vs Thermal distortion in loudspeaker drivers:

Mike

https://pearl-hifi.com/06_Lit_Archive/15_Mfrs_Publications/Harman_Int%27l/AES-Other_Publications/LS_Heat_Dissipation-Thermal_Compression.pdf

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/power-compression-vs-thermal-distortion-loudspeaker-alexander-wilson/

 

@steve59 

https://youtu.be/AhB8uL12gtk

this may help...

... also don't confuse input sensitivity of an amplifier with its power output

 

I watched the video, not sure PM did the job of explaining the difference between the quality of a Cambridge audio watt vs the BHK.  How would somebody confuse power output with input sensitivity or is input sensitivity a possible reason for the low volume differences I'm hearing?

@steve59 Wrote:

Shouldn't any amp have power to spare at 1 watt? 

Maybe this will help. Why is the first watt important? See below:

https://www.firstwatt.com/

Mike