Tidal class-action


MQA declared bankruptcy.  I smell the fear of a class action lawsuit against Tidal.  We could do that.  Tidal has 8 million subscribers, we don't know how many or how long they all were paying double by subscribing to the 'nobody can prove Tidal has any tracks higher than 44.1khz' plan.  They probably have lots of people on phones who haven't even heard of MQA who trust them and wanted the one that sounds better.  They're right not to have to listen to any talk about MQA if they want the plan that sounds better.

MQA means you can't prove the file is an original copy or not. That Beethoven track you like it says is 192 could actually be Dua Lipa at 11khz.

The bankruptcy move was probably to protect themselves from Tidal, who is the receiver of people's funds.

 

audioisnobiggie

HDCD was a similar technology applied to physical CDs, where the native sample rate had a fixed limit.  I believe MQA is similar, but used for streaming, where the potential signal bandwidth continues to increase.  If you have a high speed Internet connection and local network bandwidth, you don't need or want MQA.  However, if your stream to DAC is bandwidth limited, it may be of value to you.  Over time, though, the audience for processing such as MQA grows more limited, just like HDCD was effectively superseded by SACD (which is also heading towards obsolescence due to high rez streaming)

The OP comes across more as prejudiced than informed.  Buggy whips weren't proven ineffective or fraudulent, they just weren't needed for cars.

 

PS FLAC is a compressed file format.  It needs to be rendered back to its original state (wav for audio files) to be converted to analog.  This capability can be built into a DAC.

I think I remember my first internet speed after using a telephone modem was around 200kbs.  Enough for 192 uncompressed, not even flac'd, if they had had it.

People probably usually have around 100Mbs now, your higher res audio is a tiny trickle that must cost nothing, since games companies will let you download constantly at full speed, even though there's no reason to.  If there were, I'm sure it would eventually change.

cleeds:

It's the lawsuit thread, so that's what it's about.  People are just saying why they aren't interested, or we would only get $2.79 each.

When I don't get what I'm paying for, I want my money back.

MQA can not prove to users that Tidal has the original higher res track on it's server, based on what it is streaming.  That's why it chose the name Master Quality Authentification, it's what end users would be unable to prove they get with it.

I can hear that there are many satisfied users, but how would they know it's wrong if it is?

I still don’t understand, why did you wait until MQA “declared bankruptcy” before bringing this injustice to light if it has been going on all this time?

Wow. A lot of hyperbole and bluster here from somewhat miss informed people looking to make something out of nothing. Tidal wasn't charing extra for MQA files, only offering them as part of a paid plan. You had a choice to buy the plan - or not. You knew / or didn't what MQA was supposed to be about when you signed up and btw- MQA was never conclusively measured or otherwise shown to "sound" better than non MQA- which presumably may have led to some of its current status. There's no "class action" lawsuit filed or pending either.