Making speakers “disappear”…..


So I’m just setting up my new system and dial it in-

Benchmark AHB2

Benxhmark DAC 3

Totem1 speakers

 

all trial and error here but…..when you guys are dialing in speaker placement do you move them around, closer and further away until the sound doesn’t actually seem that it’s coming from the speakers? So far I’ve found that sitting in a “triangle” - equal distance from the listening position that the speakers are placed apart and so far so good - do you guys do this or have any tips for me on this?

thomastrouble

^^^ P.S.: They are toed in at 13 degrees so the "beams" cross about 2' in front of the center seat. 

Right, I learned to set up LS3 5As back in 1979, the prototype for this sort of speaker. I was working for a HiFi shop in Miami, FL at the time.

As for speakers that can disappear you chose wisely, or just lucky? They need to be on stands with the tweeters at ear height. You want them just a little closer together than an equilateral triangle with your head. They need to be in a symmetrical environment. Three feet away or more from side walls and between two and three feet from the front wall. If one speaker is in a corner the other one has to be in a corner also. I would not want to see them more than eight feet apart. A 14 foot wall would be the max. I prefer corner placement. You will need to use some sound absorption on the side and front walls. 

You next mission should you choose to accept it will be subwoofers. You will need two, using a 2 way digital crossover with full bass management, crossing at 100 Hz. Why so high? To reduce distortion levels in that little woofer. In the process you will turn David into an absolute gorilla. 

I just set up this system for my son in law with Harbeth P3s. 

@brianh61 

As per Jim Smith, try to make the distance from Tweeter to Tweeter somewhere around 80-83% of the distance between each Tweeter and your ears when in your listening spot. Looks like a similar formula right above.

Agreed. Jim’s 83% rule almost always works for me, and regardless, a great starting point.

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Takes a lot of time (unless you can get an assiatant) but it made a huge difference in my room. Lickily it's in my basement on a conctere floor, so I can mark the exact location and angle of each speaker and listening chair.

 

Good question. Good answers. FWIW I kinda get it about the direct sound and the first reflected wave. Probably took two months to make a set of spanky new Wharfdale Heritage Lintons disappear in a big asymmetrical 1924 bungalow bedroom, but it wasn’t horrible work, LOL