Kirmuss Cleaning System Discuss?

^ Exactly ditto. Except that I have added a DIY ultrasonic to my HW-17, using the latter to dry the LP after cleaning in the former. For really dirty used LP’s I pre-clean in the kitchen sink (well, above the sink) using the info in the Neil Antin "book". Any ol’ record cleaning brush (or even the paint brush pads used for doing edges), and Liquinox (by Alconox) as a detergent for removing very heavy, dried on schmutz (love that word ;-), the LP held by one of those record "handle" devices available on ebay for peanuts. Then a thorough rinse using tap water (the horror!), and into the ultrasonic tank filled with distilled water. Dry with the HW-17, then hit with the Furutech DeStat III, a fantastic anti-static device.

If an LP needs scrubbing, I put a loose cork platter mat on top of the one attached to the HW-17’s platter (for the dirty side), removing it after cleaning the top side (with a hand held brush; the attached one in the VPI is used only to dispense distilled water) and flip over the LP. The HW-17 is also handy for a quick dusting (it takes only a minute to do both LP sides); hand held brushes just don’t work in my experience (my first was the Cecil E. Watts Preener, my second the Discwasher), but if you must use one get yourself a DeStat III (to neutralize the inevitable static charge left behind), far better than the Zerostat.

Kirmuss? Life is too short!

I have a Kirmuss. I also have an Audio Desk. The Kirmuss system is way too fussy, manually involved and time consuming. After some successes with it I ended up not using it for well over a year, mostly because I couldn't deal with the fuss and time.

Now I have changed my approach.I was about out of the Kirmuss fluid which is very expensive, and didn't want to follow that tedious procedure any more. I bought a vial of Tergikleen and now use that. I run used/dirty records through the Kirmuss with Tergikleen for 20 minutes (10 minutes and then flip the sides...not that flipping makes a difference). Then I run them through the Audio Desk. I use the Audio Intelligent Vinyl Solutions ultrasonic formula for that.

I've been getting much better results than I ever did with the official Kirmuss process, and the cost of consumables is vastly diminished too.

@dwette I have a similar system.  I use an Audiodesk for my initial cleaning.  I like that it is a physical cleaning as well as ultrasonic with the rollers.  I use the Audiodesk cleaning fluid.  I follow up with a rinse/wash in a Degritter using only the Degritter rinse fluid.  90% of the records I clean are very nearly as quiet as a CD and have at most one or two minimal clicks or pops.  If there’s no physical damage most records play as mint.  I am convinced that there is no better cleaning system currently available, though it ain’t cheap.