@lewm

Sorry I am confusing you, let me try again. I am going to just get an album out of my collection at random and perform all of the step listed here.

Placing the record right out of the sleeve (anti-static) onto the turntable give a reading of 4.0 to 2.0 across the record when measured with the Simco. Using the Destat with the record on the platter drops the static reading down to 1.6 to .04 across the record. No matter how many times I use the Destat I can never get the record to neutral 0.00 when the record is on the platter.

Holding the record in my hand and using the Destat the record drops from the initial reading of 4.0 to 2.0 across the record to neutral 0.00, static charge no longer is measured on the record surface. Next placing the record on the turntable and taking another reading the record is still neutral 0.00. So placing the record on the platter does not introduce any static charge back on to the record.

I play the record all the way through to the end and take another reading and I get anywhere from 0.00 to 0.04 across the record. So playing the album only produced a small amount of static back on to the record surface.

Now here is the crazy part. When I remove the album from the turntable and take another reading with the record in my hand the static charge is back to its original reading of 4.0 to 2.0, give or take a few points but basically it has returned to its original static charged state.

I would be interested in how much static returns to the record surface when using the DS Audio ION-001 Vinyl ionizer or the CS Port Static Eliminator IME1 upon removing the record from the platter. I’ll bet the static charge is back.

when using the DS Audio ION-001 Vinyl ionizer or the CS Port Static Eliminator IME1 upon removing the record from the platter. I’ll bet the static charge is back.

Yes I'm sure the static would return when removing the LP but at that point who cares? Just saying

Benji, thank you for answering my questions, and I don’t see where I was confused. The questions I asked were based on my understanding of your original post. Many people have claimed in the past that the act of the diamond stylus rubbing against the groove is a major cause of the electrostatic charge accumulating. In fact, if you look at the websites for these very expensive devices we have been discussing, that notion perpetuated .. Many years ago, the Shura corporation did a fairly scientific controlled study of static charge on records, and they concluded that friction between the Stylus and the groove is not a major cause of static accumulation. Your results are completely consistent with those of the Shure corporation. So that’s very interesting. And that’s what I wanted to know. My opening statement that you were” confusing us with actual data “ was meant to be facetious. Most claims made here are pure speculation or personal opinion. You contributed real information that you acquired using one of the best handheld meters to do the job.

@mikelavigne 

I have a question about your findings using the Destat III on records. You stated that after pre-treating with the Destat III and playing the record on your turntable the effects only last about 5 to 10 minutes. How were you able to determine that? Did you measure the static charge before and after play? The reason I ask this is because my findings are totally different.

When I treat a record with the Destat and measure the static charge on the record surface it is 0.00, surface is neutral. After playing the record I measure the surface again while the record is still on the turntable and I get a reading of 0.00 to 0.04 across the record. Which shows that the record surface is still static free after playing that side of the record. 0.04 is such a small amount you would never hear it through your system. I have repeated this process many times and with many different records. We seem to have very different outcomes using the same process.

Hey if you would like to get rid of those doorstops for free I will take them !

I use this cheap version I got from Amazon:

YUCHENGTECH Ionizing Air Blower Anti Static Ionizer Static Eliminator ESD Ionizer Static Elimination Fan Benchtop DC Type (110V)

there is fan noise but I only use it between records.