Bass only when I stand up…


Weird experience.

Wired up my system and sit down in my office chair. The bass disappeared. Stand up, and alakazam, the bass is back full and wonderful. It’s like swimming in the sea, there are horizontal layers of different temperatures. Quite distinct.

Ok, system info:

Speakers - PMC MB2SE

Power amp - Marantz 8807

Preamp - Marantz 8005

Sources - Pioneer LX800 or N70ae

Room - carpeted, 4.27x5.5x2.75m, acoustic insulated plasterboard and timber frame

Shape? Left side where door is, has duct risers that create 800mm boxes either side of the door. I’ve tried attaching a photo but didn’t work. Try here: link

Speakers placed 600mm out from the 4.27 wall, with the opposite wall being a library and office desk.

Tried? Raising front and rear speaker stands 1” to point speakers up or down slightly with no effect.

I welcome ideas 💡 yet realize there are constraints here too.

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Bass response is one of the craziest things in hifi.  Over the years and living in different houses with varying room sizes and volumes I would stubbornly set up my stereo with the same separation distance between the speakers and distance from the front wall.  I would notice that the bass would often sound better in the back of the room than in my listening chair.  The real head scratcher was when I had great bass while standing and it would all disappear when I sat down.  Finally, in desperation I moved my speakers closer together and Bam!  I had bass again.

The bass response relative to speaker position seems to be a function of bass driver size, room shape and volume.  If the drivers are too far apart the nodes rise upward and outward.  That is the part I did not visualize- the 3 dimensionality of the bass response until I hit on it.  The good thing is, or what I found is that the bass remains the same when moving the speakers closer and closer together once at the sweet spot.  So it is possible to attain the largest soundstage possible and have great bass by just finding that sweet spot for the bass. 1 inch or less movement of the speakers makes a difference.

No worries, bass traps were the end of the continuum of choices, not the start.  Moving your speakers was definitely the place to start, but if you could not  or if it wasn't enough then bass traps were next.

Glad you got it sorted.

Those that suggest it's speaker position are correct.  It's a common problem when the speakers and listening position are both 1/3 into the room.  

I suggest researching Dave Wilson's process of positioning speakers and listening positions.  It will also help you brush up on your public speaking skills.