Seeking more 3d imaging, deeper/wider soundstage

The problem for me with the Vicoustics product is that foam does not work very well for bass trapping. It looks great, but great "sound" is more important to me. After much research based on price, quality, and effectiveness, I determined that GIK was best for my needs. I am very happy with my choice and recommend GIK highly. I, too, thought that it was difficult to get room treatment "right," particularly in a room with crappy dimensions of 10x10x8. It CAN be done with proper guidance. I have no affiliation with GIK, I am just a very satisfied customer, and am grateful that I did not have to spend mega bucks to achieve the wonderful sound I have currently. That being said, room treatment is not a panacea, and it may wind up that new equipment is in your future ... as someone who had a Rotel amp briefly, I can tell you that I found it grainy and unmusical. That's why I had it briefly. However, I think that room treatment is essential regardless of equipment ... Even the best, most expensive equipment, can sound like crap in a poorly treated or untreated room. Just go to a major audio show held in a bunch of hotel rooms and hear for yourself.

I'll post some of my reference digital tracks later this week, might not get a moment in the listening room for a while. Kids, work, wife, etc etc etc

Rlb61, I agree with you about Vicoustic and bass trapping which is why I dont use them for that purpose. I am considering RealTraps or GIK now. My room is very similar in dimension to your except that my ceiling is 9 ft and the wall behind the listening position is open to the family room and kitchen. What other treatments do you have? After bass trapping I am going to treat the first reflection points on the side and the ceiling with Vicoustic Cinema Round panels.

Realrmo, you need to settle down and wait patently for your room treatments to show up from Foam Factory, it took about a month for mine to arrive.

Don't be spending money before you get to play around with the treatments, I found them to solve most of my issues.

Noone has mentioned the golden ratio...listening position should be equal distance from the speakers (equalaterial triangle I beleive is the math term for it)

I also have found for some reason that upgrading the amp power cord widened the soundstage, and also made it deeper, don't ask me, I cannot explain it in any terms that would sound scientific.

I have a Parsaound 7100 processor with Focal Profile 938 and it was a wonderful wide soundstage (I recall you were considering the Focal)

Tboooe - I have 4 tri-traps (2 on each front corner stacked floor to ceiling), 2 244s (one behind each speaker), 1 Monster Bass Trap directly behind my listening chair, and 4 spot panels (2 on each wall) to hit first reflection points. Having a crappy, square room with an alcove right behind the listening position sucked big time ... but the GIK products have fixed that essentially, and I am quite pleased with the sound.