@2psyop
cd318- A very valid and poignant point. And I asked for everyone to reflect. Still, I don’t honor and respect those who served, those who fight and those who paid the ultimate price any LESS because they fought in a rich man’s war, or for a nation full of privileged leaders making really bad decisions. I am an American and I still have hope for this country. I pray I am not naive.
You’re right, we must not blame those who were doing what they believed was their duty.
However, I’m not so hopeful when it comes to the motives of those who would seek to rule over us. Not when they appear to be 2 faced war mongering psychopaths who hypocritically exploit remembrance events in the same highly public way that some celebrities use charity events.
Looking to humanity’s best minds is of little comfort either.
Darwin thought that life is a battle for survival over resources and this has been borne out in virtually ever single war.
Freud revealed that the human id has a very dark side, and even a cursory glance through history bears this out.
Basically human greed appears to be limitless. Whatever someone has, you can bet someone else wants it and will go to extreme lengths to get it.
Haven’t most wars been over land and territory, money and resources? How did 1% of humanity end up with 99% of its wealth?
How can they live with themselves with the knowledge that they could ease immeasurable hardship and suffering without any perceived financial hardship to themselves?
@riie
Stealing someone’s oil is not sacrifice, it is crime.
Case in point.
Oil is a very valuable resource.
We can’t blame those who fought, only those who sent them to fight.
A soldier never gets to choose anything.
Tony Blair, the ex Prime Minister of the UK is despised by many today for his willingness to send young men and women to their deaths on what proved to be a lie. There never were any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Ultimately, who cares when only the winners get to write the history?
@scott22
If only mankind was smart enough to get along and armies were not needed what a world it could be.
A noble sentiment, but one that is also incredibly idealistic. There has never been a war free year in the history of mankind.
In any case, as I already said, if people in power/psychopaths remotely cared for the dead and injured they would do everything in their power to broker peace and prevent further carnage.
Let’s not forget that countries like Ireland, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Portugal etc remained neutral throughout WW2.
Even the US, which later blotted it’s copybook on a truly epic global scale remained fairly neutral til the end of 1941 after France had fallen, much in the same way they joined the party late in WW1 only after events in Russia went against their wishes. Of course prior to that the US was happily lending huge amounts of money to the various warring factions.
Many would easily argue that the US/NATO encroachment into Ukraine since 2014 (shades of the Cuban Missile Crisis?) is now once again threatening to jeopardise the safety of the entire human race.
Billions of people.
And yet still no mention of peace talks and/or face saving negotiations.
I guess we should be eternally grateful that Kennedy and Kruschev came to their senses back in those dark days of late1962.
Here's a Jan 2023 quote from the infamous Doomsday Clock website:
"This year, the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moves the hands of the Doomsday Clock forward, largely (though not exclusively) because of the mounting dangers of the war in Ukraine. The Clock now stands at 90 seconds to midnight—the closest to global catastrophe it has ever been."
Once again, if anyone truly wants to respect the fallen, and the sacrifices they made and their loved ones must forever live with, then those people, especially those who claim to lead us, should, by all means possible, do their very utmost to prevent future wars.
Anything else is empty rhetoric and would be a callous disgrace to their memory.
@tomcarr
Let’s just have fun and stick to music and gear. Please.
I think we do, at least for 99% of the time.
However every rule must have an exception.
We are not the band on the Titanic, blind to extremely important external events, are we?
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/
